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This whole board cracks me up sometimes. I have never heard so much product bashing in my entire life. I met with a builder recently and asked him what's up with this industry and why does everyone try to steal and piss each other off so much? He didn't really have a clear answer other than to say it's always been like that. He told me he lurks here from time to time but is put off by all the bickering, bitching, and overall 12 yr old girl like fighting. It's too bad because he knows his shit (world record hulls).
Brian
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Originally posted by Kwicherbichen:
This whole board cracks me up sometimes. I have never heard so much product bashing in my entire life. I met with a builder recently and asked him what's up with this industry and why does everyone try to steal and piss each other off so much? He didn't really have a clear answer other than to say it's always been like that. He told me he lurks here from time to time but is put off by all the bickering, bitching, and overall 12 yr old girl like fighting. It's too bad because he knows his shit (world record hulls).
Brian
Brian
Maybe you havent taken notice,but the whole HTM board came on to say they dont need to bash others and that the HTM bashers should get there information correct before opening their mouths.Our point of this board is to get correct and accurate information to people interested in HTM and for the HTM owners to chat to one another.The positive imput by the HTM people stopped the crap talk . Have A nice day!
[This message has been edited by HTM Lady (edited November 13, 2001).]
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Ker-smack...ouch. Quite a retort. I am a big fan of the HTM's and the folks at the factory. Incidentally, my point is to pass along this pic that I found on www.racephotos.com. (http://www.racephotos.com.) It appears to be an SR-24. Don't know if it has been doctored or not. It would make a great "what not to do in an HTM" ad. The link is: http://www.racephotos.com/PI/P05.jpg
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Brian
Maybe you havent taken notice,but the whole HTM board came on to say they dont need to bash others and that the HTM bashers should get there information correct before opening their mouths.Our point of this board is to get correct and accurate information to people interested in HTM and for the HTM owners to chat to one another.The positive imput by the HTM people stopped the crap talk until you came on. Have A nice day!
The whole HTM Board?
Our point of this Board?
Stopped the crap talk "UNTIL YOU CAME ON?"
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Ease up there Queen of the HTM's I don't want to be the one to break it to you, but
A. He's been here a hell of a lot longer then any of the HTM guys..
B. He just pointed out something about the Boat Industry in general not necesarrily about HTM's.
C. You gotta lighten up a little bit! Calm that "edge" down before you hurt somebodies feelings. http://free.***boat.net/ubb/biggrin.gif
If anything if you read his posts the main point of it was in fact the same point your trying to make.
Why do people Bash products without first hand knowledge?
I did my HTM bashing a while ago, AND IT WAS FROM PRODUCT KNOWLEDGE.. The first two I rode in were the equivalent of Hammered dog sh*t.. However I'm an open minded person and went for a few more rides a year or two later, and they were pretty nice! Hence why I asked HTM Racing if they changed something about the boats. Which they responded that they did.... Perhaps alot of people had similar experiences as mine, which is a tough reputation for a manufacturer to overcome. If you would have asked me 6 months ago if I would've purchased an HTM I would've said something like you couldn't pay me too. If you'd ask me now... I still say no but that becuase of personal issues not becuase of the performance or quality of the boat. (Just not my cup of tea, besides I can't see spending that much money on an HTM when almost any 21-22' Cat with twin o/b's is half the price and will blow the doors off an HTM that costs the same amount http://free.***boat.net/ubb/biggrin.gif)
RD
[This message has been edited by RiverDave2 (edited November 13, 2001).]
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Originally posted by Kwicherbichen:
This whole board cracks me up sometimes. I have never heard so much product bashing in my entire life. I met with a builder recently and asked him what's up with this industry and why does everyone try to steal and piss each other off so much? He didn't really have a clear answer other than to say it's always been like that. He told me he lurks here from time to time but is put off by all the bickering, bitching, and overall 12 yr old girl like fighting. It's too bad because he knows his shit (world record hulls).
Brian
kwicherbichen .. has a point about bashing! HOWEVER I HAVE NOT MET A UNHAPPY H T M OWNER OR ONE THATS BASHING , WE ALL KNOW WHAT WE HAVE AND ARE PROUD OF ARE (world record hulls),THIS WHY WE GET A LITTLE TIRED OF THIS SHIT ALLWAYS DEFENDING H T M ON THIS BOARD BUT WE NEVER SEE THE BASHING M F ERS AT THE LAKE IMAGINE THAT!!!( THERE BULLSHIT CANT FLOAT ).I PERSONALLY KNOW OF SEVERAL OWNERS THAT HAVE Purchaser 2 OR 3 OVER THE YEARS THEY MUST OF BEEN HAPPY. I THINK THE BASHING-BULLSHIT STOPS WHEN THE THROTTLE DROPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Mr. Pump, I'm still looking forward to that ride in your ride so to speak, but for godsakes man we gotta work on that Capslock button! (Makes you look like your yelling all the time)
RD
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Originally posted by RiverDave2:
Brian
Maybe you havent taken notice,but the whole HTM board came on to say they dont need to bash others and that the HTM bashers should get there information correct before opening their mouths.Our point of this board is to get correct and accurate information to people interested in HTM and for the HTM owners to chat to one another.The positive imput by the HTM people stopped the crap talk until you came on. Have A nice day!
The whole HTM Board?
Our point of this Board?
Stopped the crap talk "UNTIL YOU CAME ON?"
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Ease up there Queen of the HTM's I don't want to be the one to break it to you, but
A. He's been here a hell of a lot longer then any of the HTM guys..
B. He just pointed out something about the Boat Industry in general not necesarrily about HTM's.
C. You gotta lighten up a little bit! Calm that "edge" down before you hurt somebodies feelings. http://free.***boat.net/ubb/biggrin.gif
If anything if you read his posts the main point of it was in fact the same point your trying to make.
Why do people Bash products without first hand knowledge?
I did my HTM bashing a while ago, AND IT WAS FROM PRODUCT KNOWLEDGE.. The first two I rode in were the equivalent of Hammered dog sh*t.. However I'm an open minded person and went for a few more rides a year or two later, and they were pretty nice! Hence why I asked HTM Racing if they changed something about the boats. Which they responded that they did.... Perhaps alot of people had similar experiences as mine, which is a tough reputation for a manufacturer to overcome. If you would have asked me 6 months ago if I would've purchased an HTM I would've said something like you couldn't pay me too. If you'd ask me now... I still say no but that becuase of personal issues not becuase of the performance or quality of the boat. (Just not my cup of tea, besides I can't see spending that much money on an HTM when almost any 21-22' Cat with twin o/b's is half the price and will blow the doors off an HTM that costs the same amount http://free.***boat.net/ubb/biggrin.gif)
RD
RIVERDAVE2
A & B YOU ARE CORRECT AND ITS TRUE .ITS JUST A SHAME THAT EVERYONE NEEDS TO BASH. JUST WAISTED TIME.
C.EXCUSE THE EDGE. JUST KIND OF GETTING TIRED OF THE NEGATIVE. DONT WANT TO HURT ANY FEELINGS. THANKS FOR THE INSIGHT.
D.IM GLAD YOU KEPT AN OPEN MIND AND TRIED THE HTM AGAIN. ITS TOTALLY COOL. IF THEY DONT DO IT FOR YOU THATS OK,AND GREAT THAT YOU SAY THE WAY IT HAPPENED. AS FAR AS BLOW THE DOORS OFF THE HTM. WE ALL KNOW A BOAT IS A MATTER OF PERSONAL PREFERANCE AND THE HTM WORKS FOR SOME AND NOT OTHERS.
E. SHARE MORE INFORMATION ON THE BOARD,IF YOU DONT MIND?
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Originally posted by RiverDave2:
Mr. Pump, I'm still looking forward to that ride in your ride so to speak, but for godsakes man we gotta work on that Capslock button! (Makes you look like your yelling all the time)
RD
RD... HAVASU on the 1st weekend of december ,be there or be square for you ride!!!!!!!!!! SORRY about cap lock i am a lazy typer. by the way i have no knowledge of a 21/22 ft H T M with twin outboards (APPLES 2 APPLES) butt i know of a 24sr with twin stock outborads runs 105ish + P.S. I ONCE SAW A VW RACE A ROLLSROYCE THE LESS EXPENSIVE CAR WONE BUT THE DRIVER OF THE RR STILL HADE A ROLLS.got to get back to the salt mines C U HAVE A NICE DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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HTM Lady, I'm not trying to be a smart ass here, but look at the # of posts.. If I shared anymore information I'd be working for ***boat. http://free.***boat.net/ubb/biggrin.gif but since you asked for it.. http://free.***boat.net/ubb/biggrin.gif
With a pair of 300-hp Mercury outboards, Dave's Custom Boats' Mach 22 has the speed to blow away just about anything.
Guys who own boats with roaring supercharged or twin turbocharged big-blocks don't take kindly to getting passed by speedsters with screaming outboards.
If the outboards happen to be twin Mercury Hi-Performance 2.5 Drag SS motors and they're bolted to the transom of a Dave's Custom Boats Mach 22, those big-block guys won't have much choice except to go down valiantly in defeat. The Mach 22, you see, was the fastest boat at our little shindig, wringing
down the Parker strip section of the Colorado River at 124.2 mph on Stalker radar. That's six mph faster than the closest blown big-block-powered boat in our fleet.
Price as Tested
$77,605
HP as Tested
600
Top Speed
124.2 MPH
RD
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RD... HAVASU on the 1st weekend of december ,be there or be square for you ride!!!!!!!!!! SORRY about cap lock i am a lazy typer. by the way i have no knowledge of a 21/22 ft H T M with twin outboards (APPLES 2 APPLES) butt i know of a 24sr with twin stock outborads runs 105ish + P.S. I ONCE SAW A VW RACE A ROLLSROYCE THE LESS EXPENSIVE CAR WONE BUT THE DRIVER OF THE RR STILL HADE A ROLLS.got to get back to the salt mines C U HAVE A NICE DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!![/B]
This is All in good fun right? I'm not trying to make anyone mad here particularly not the HTM racing guys, becuase all of them I've met seem cool enough to me...
Your right about the apples to apples thing, it's really not a fair comparison, but none the less it is true.
1/2 price more speed.
Rolls Royce though? C'mon now bud, Have you ever heard or Rolls Royce on a message board because someone was "Bashing" there product?
RD
[This message has been edited by RiverDave2 (edited November 13, 2001).]