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I love how people so far removed from the situation can "think" they know all the information better than the people who are down here sleeping, eating, breathing and living the aftermath of Katrina. I'm so damn sick of the work "Katrina" that I could puke ever time I hear it. Y'all don't have all the information, but you go ahead and base your speculations on MISinformation provided by the media and the internet....LOL. If you think that your getting the whole story from internet clips and the TV, your dumber than I thought, because we all know everything you read on the internet is accurate :rolleyes: . Nah, the media doesn't have an adjenda.... :rolleyes: You want to know the truth about New Orleans, come on down and spew your MISinformation in the middle of Jackson square or in the middle of Chalmette, I bet you won't make it home.
I didn't notice this little gem until I reread the whole thread:
I can see that your a real compassionate person. Just remember karma is a bitch, you'll get yours eventually........jackass
To those that have actually helped and lent a hand to people in need, you have a very heart felt thank you from a New Orleanian.
Jay
If ya re-read the thread again, you'll find my apology to HOSS, or do you want one too, just because?
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If ya re-read the thread again, you'll find my apology to HOSS, or do you want one too, just because?
Not necessary to apologise to me, your the one that came off as an ass. You owe yourself an apology, Mr. Sarcastic.
Jay
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Glad to know i'm still welcome in 'Nawlins if I ever deicde to visit it. Not likely tho.
No sense of Humor HOSS, Fine, I apologise for getting a bit overboard.
Beyond that, WTFever.
Understood bro,,,you`ve always been a stand up guy here. I jumped in midstride and didn`t see the crack. Your ok bro. :cool:
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Funny how this thread turned all "warm and fuzzy"..
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I love how people so far removed from the situation can "think" they know all the information better than the people who are down here sleeping, eating, breathing and living the aftermath of Katrina. I'm so damn sick of the work "Katrina" that I could puke ever time I hear it. Y'all don't have all the information, but you go ahead and base your speculations on MISinformation provided by the media and the internet....LOL. If you think that your getting the whole story from internet clips and the TV, your dumber than I thought, because we all know everything you read on the internet is accurate :rolleyes: . Nah, the media doesn't have an adjenda.... :rolleyes: You want to know the truth about New Orleans, come on down and spew your MISinformation in the middle of Jackson square or in the middle of Chalmette, I bet you won't make it home.
I didn't notice this little gem until I reread the whole thread:
I can see that your a real compassionate person. Just remember karma is a bitch, you'll get yours eventually........jackass
To those that have actually helped and lent a hand to people in need, you have a very heart felt thank you from a New Orleanian.
Jay
Jay I agree with you 100%.
The rest of the country only think they know. And that coming from someone from Meraux LA. I only wish I wouldn't have first hand info.
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Only way to look at this from a "down here point of view" is that alot of the undesirables have gone else where.
mmmmm,,,,,,,,mmmmmm,,,,,,,GOG BLESS TEXAS
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I love how people so far removed from the situation can "think" they know all the information better than the people who are down here sleeping, eating, breathing and living the aftermath of Katrina. I'm so damn sick of the work "Katrina" that I could puke ever time I hear it. Y'all don't have all the information, but you go ahead and base your speculations on MISinformation provided by the media and the internet....LOL. If you think that your getting the whole story from internet clips and the TV, your dumber than I thought, because we all know everything you read on the internet is accurate :rolleyes: . Nah, the media doesn't have an adjenda.... :rolleyes: You want to know the truth about New Orleans, come on down and spew your MISinformation in the middle of Jackson square or in the middle of Chalmette, I bet you won't make it home.
I didn't notice this little gem until I reread the whole thread:
I can see that your a real compassionate person. Just remember karma is a bitch, you'll get yours eventually........jackass
To those that have actually helped and lent a hand to people in need, you have a very heart felt thank you from a New Orleanian.
Jay
Indeed, how dare I, from a distance of over 800 miles away, sit here, look at what Mayor Nagin did in the first week after the storm hit, look at what he DID NOT do, in the week before AND AFTER the storm hit, and look at WHAT HIS JOB REQUIRED HIM TO DO (which by the way, was not done), and dare to make ANY conclusions about it. Yes, how utterly inconcevable of me, how gauche, the gaul of it all. (and yes, arround home here , I DO happen to be known as "Mr Sarcastic", glad to see my rep is spreading :) ).
Do please, explain to me, and all of us so foolish as to draw any conclusions from the activity and inactivity of one Mayor Ray Nagin, explain his actions.
Explain his abandoning 90,000 people in his city.
Explain his NOT IMPLEMENTING the city's own emergency action plan.
Explain his trying to hang rescue responsibility on a federal agency when the legal "first responders" are his own city emergency services personnell.
Explain the post-Katrina day 2 thru 5 finger pointing he was engaged in with his "boss" Gov Blanco.
Explain how he gets away with the "Chocolate City" bit "to not be overrun by mexicans" when any white (ok, "caucasian") mayor, to say "Vanilla City" would be absolute political suicide. And do not use Nagin's explanation, I have heard it, and it is lame, dreadfully lame.
Explain away my "missunderstandings", please. I shall watch, read closely, and, perhaps, learn.
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First off BRO!, you can`t blame Nagin for the spinoff of the media with vanilla , chocolate or whatever. So shut up with that shit. Initiate the emergency plan? He said on news conference after news conference to get out of the city! There is no posasible emergency plan with the levees popping! PERIOD bro. I stayed. Were the phuc were you? 800 miles away? Get the phuc away with your hindsight Monday mornin quarterbacking. Just get the phuc. There was NO, ZERO communication. I didn`t here from my wife and baby for damn near 2 and a half weeks. Cell phones didn`t work. NO TOWERS. So just what the hell did you want him (or anyone) to do? Please tell me. I`d love to know since there wasn`t jack chit I could to for myself but sit and wait. Please tell me Mr. 800 mile man. You may want to contact FEMA and give them your plan. It may help you and your family if a major disaster comes to pay your area a visit. There is nothing down here capable of withstanding a CAT 5 storm. NOTHING! So Mayor Nagin did what any decent person would do and looked out for the citizens and told them the truth,"Get THE PHUC OUT OF HERE"! But I guess you`ve been watching Superman and feel that he is much more than human. Probably like yourself.
Tell me,,,,,what would you have done with all the resources at your disposal? Hell, Amtrack had a train ready. No one had a way to get people to the train but it was ready. Let everyone go on their own to have chaos again with looting. Cause trust me,,,they weren`t gonna catch a train,,I was here with gun in hand and 1G halogens lighting up my hood. Maybe you would have used all the school buses in New Orleans East that were underwater from the levee breech? Come on now,,,get your media web crap and tell me what you would have done/do. But make it good son,,talking to an idiot is making me feel,,,well,,,less than my above average self. And I already have gas.
All eyes on you now SS. Lets see what ya got.
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Explain away my "missunderstandings", please. I shall watch, read closely, and, perhaps, learn.
I doubt seriously that your actually interested in the truth, only debate. Want to know the truth? If your REALLY interested in the truth and not a Internet debate that doesn't mean a whole hell of a lot to you or me. Come on down 800 miles and volunteer to help gut someones house like many good hearted people from all over the country have. Then and only then, you may have a VALID opinion. Talk to any local. See it, smell it, experience it for yourself and then draw your conclusions. Talk to the blue collar people who did evacuate (like me) and lost most of everything they have worked for. I heeded the warnings, I got out. I don't depend on the government to get me out of town when a natural disaster is heading my way with over 5 days notice. I piled up anything I could fit in my F-150 and got the hell out of Dodge. Nah, I don't blame Nagin for the people who were told to get out the same as I was and didn't go. At what point are people responsible for themselves, at what point are they responsible for their own families? There were people that actually drove to the Superdome at the last minute and parked their cars in the parking garage (which was full of evacuee's vehicles - find that one in the media), then got stranded once the water level came up. And by the way, Nagin announced that the Superdome was not going to be used as a shelter that people need to evacuate instead of relying on local shelters, guess what they showed up anyways. After people were standing around outside, they opened the doors. Why didn't they take their own responsibility and get the hell out the same as I did in their own cars. What was Nagin supposed to do, go house to house at gunpoint making sure every citizen was responsible enough to evacuate? Sure there were people who didn't have transportation and couldn't fend for themselves, the invalids, the sick. Those people I really feel for and are the REAL VICTIMS that should have been evacuated by the city or government and Nagin need to shoulder the blame for. But, there are people who depend on the government for everything. Some just have babies and wait for the welfare check and go buy 24 inch rims for their 84 cutlass, I know because I see it everyday LITERALLY. When it came time to get the hell out, they didn't. Most of those people that you saw at the superdome and read about plastered all over the media had the time (5 days) and the means to get out (or enough time to make the means to get out), but they didn't. Those are the ugly secret to New Orleans, the poor, lazy lower 40% of the population who only give a crap about themselves and what they get for free. Those that have been catered to and spoon fed welfare checks through administrations well before Nagin. When you get a check for doing nothing every week, don't really give a crap about your kids running the streets selling drugs, getting food stamps to live on, then hell, a golden bus is going to show up at the front door to get me the hell out of town when a hurricane is bearing down on the city. That's the mentality of those people down here. That's most of what the nation saw. The black eye of New Orleans. (no pun intended)
But, what about the blue collar people (like you, SS) who worked hard all of their lives, paid taxes, earned every single thing they have, and lost everything due to a NATURAL DISASTER. You going to blame Nagin for that too? They got out as was told, and came back to everything that they had, destroyed. This is the upper 60% of the population you didn't see screaming for help at the convention center. Those were the people who drove for 7 hours in stop and go traffic (more stop than go) to get to Baton Rouge only 60 miles away. Do you see them in the media? Why not? How come their stories aren't as important as "Tyrisha" yelling at the CNN camera man at the convention center?
The problem is that you put Nagin responsible for things that people should have been responsible for themselves. You fault Nagin for most of what transpired here. What you don't know is that Nagin is only .01% of the truth. Personally, I didn't vote for the man (didn't vote for Landrieu either, I voted for Couhig if you even know who that is), and acknowledge that he's said some pretty bone head chit. But, he's in office and there is nothing that you or I can do about it now. Nagin is such a small part of the puzzle. After dealing with FEMA, SBA the LRA and getting f*cked by both flood and homeowners insurance, the Federal Corps of Engineers acknowledging the faulty design of the levees, Nagin is such a small part of the average New Orleanians life. That's what make it so comical that y'all are so fixated on him and making him the bad guy. There is a much bigger picture that you don't see or even know about. If you really wanted to know the truth, if you really cared enough about the situation and the people involved, I invite you down to help me hang and float sheetrock in my house, to get my house back to where it was before the storm. If you make that much effort to really care about and learn the truth (doubt it very seriously),then I'll be glad take the time to explain and show you anything that you would want to know about what really happened here.
The point is, you really don't care about any of this, you just get your rocks off trying to prove people wrong and swinging your E-peen around. Answer me this, how exactly does that make you feel better about yourself? Your opinion and bullsh*t judgements of us from 800 miles away sure doesn't make much of a difference in the real world now does it? But hey, you feel much better about yourself....
Yours truly,
Jay