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You can pursue fraud in civil court too, not all fraud is criminal in nature. Attorney's love to include fraud allegations in their complaints - it enables them to seek punitive damages beyond actual damages sustained (the cost of the boat and/or options). Fraud/punitive claims are also the first to be attacked by the defense.
They must have bought the boat from the OC boat show since the case was filed here and not in AZ where Kachina does biz.
truth is, if Kachina has insurance coverage then they simply pay a deductible and turn it over to their carrier. The plaintiff's attorney knows their only chance at revovering big coin is pursuing a fraud charge since most policies do not cover fraud.
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The boat was ordered in AZ
Thumper
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Ok enough of the cat in the hat riddles.
Spill the beans or go away
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Either elaborate or go back under your bridge!
Gary
Fricken Troll
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No shit, Kilr and F26! You gotta love these POS's.
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Why not just come out and say whatcha gotta say?
So Kachina screwed ya.. Tell me about it, I'd like to hear!
RD
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Everybody here loves to hear a story about a good screwing. :)
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The boat was ordered in AZ
Thumper
POINT?
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You can pursue fraud in civil court too, not all fraud is criminal in nature. Attorney's love to include fraud allegations in their complaints - it enables them to seek punitive damages beyond actual damages sustained (the cost of the boat and/or options). Fraud/punitive claims are also the first to be attacked by the defense.
They must have bought the boat from the OC boat show since the case was filed here and not in AZ where Kachina does biz.
truth is, if Kachina has insurance coverage then they simply pay a deductible and turn it over to their carrier. The plaintiff's attorney knows their only chance at revovering big coin is pursuing a fraud charge since most policies do not cover fraud.
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The boat was ordered in AZ
Thumper
So which is it? Bought at the oc boat show, or in arizona?
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So did the newbie troll not know how to quote, and thus started a new thread???
Nice.
Docket number (I guess that would be the term) or such would be helpfull so we could go do our own research.
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What's the point of posting this accusation without detail's??? I call B.S!!! :rolleyes:
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So which is it? Bought at the oc boat show, or in arizona?
I am pretty sure Kachina wasn't allowed at the OC boat show.....
Something to do with Disneyland already having all of the permits in Anaheim for Dragons,Fairys and Dalmations. :idea:
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I am pretty sure Kachina wasn't allowed at the OC boat show.....
Something to do with Disneyland already having all of the permits in Anaheim for Dragons,Fairys and Dalmations. :idea:
that there is funny :cool:
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Thumper doesn't sound particularly twutterpated. :idea:
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Alright, Here is the whole scoop on this whole deal. I bet some of you will remember this guy when I am done!
Over the last year or two, this guy "Thumper," initials R.S., has been around. Had Louie known who this guy was before he made a deposit, Louie would have asked him to leave.
RS Came in buy a boat from Kachina... Yeah... gave his deposit and did his drawings. He had 17 revisions on his drawing. Most of them only moving a stripe or flame an inch here or an inch there. Louie was Louie... Kept making the changes until the guy was completely satisfied!
His third trip out there was to see the boat come out of the mold. He was jumping up and down with hapiness. He even took the gelcoater to lunch. Before he left, he was giving hugs, high fiving everyone, and was extremely happy with everything. (This is on tape)
Well, an hour after his plane landed back here in So Cal, he called up and said that Louie had threatened him with a gun, everything was wrong with the boat... so on... Louie (Blindsided) tried to keep RS happy by listening to what he said was wrong. Louie even offered to make changes to the gelcoat that were not on the drawing... The guy is screaming "I want my money back."
That is where that stands now. I think Kachina is even still trying to work with the situation.
Here is the hilarious part. This guy, R.S. has done this to other builders in the past year or so. He did it to Commander, ask Si, LaveyCraft and Shockwave.
What the hell is this guys problem...
If he is so adimate about his case, why did he get a new screen name? Because we could track old posts from where he did this to the other builders?
Bob.
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Alright, Here is the whole scoop on this whole deal. I bet some of you will remember this guy when I am done!
Over the last year or two, this guy "Thumper," initials R.S., has been around. Had Louie known who this guy was before he made a deposit, Louie would have asked him to leave.
RS Came in buy a boat from Kachina... Yeah... gave his deposit and did his drawings. He had 17 revisions on his drawing. Most of them only moving a stripe or flame an inch here or an inch there. Louie was Louie... Kept making the changes until the guy was completely satisfied!
His third trip out there was to see the boat come out of the mold. He was jumping up and down with hapiness. He even took the gelcoater to lunch. Before he left, he was giving hugs, high fiving everyone, and was extremely happy with everything. (This is on tape)
Well, an hour after his plane landed back here in So Cal, he called up and said that Louie had threatened him with a gun, everything was wrong with the boat... so on... Louie (Blindsided) tried to keep RS happy by listening to what he said was wrong. Louie even offered to make changes to the gelcoat that were not on the drawing... The guy is screaming "I want my money back."
That is where that stands now. I think Kachina is even still trying to work with the situation.
Here is the hilarious part. This guy, R.S. has done this to other builders in the past year or so. He did it to Commander, ask Si, LaveyCraft and Shockwave.
What the hell is this guys problem...
If he is so adimate about his case, why did he get a new screen name? Because we could track old posts from where he did this to the other builders?
Bob.
WOW WHAT A BUNCH NOF SIHT!
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Alright, Here is the whole scoop on this whole deal. I bet some of you will remember this guy when I am done!
Over the last year or two, this guy "Thumper," initials R.S., has been around. Had Louie known who this guy was before he made a deposit, Louie would have asked him to leave.
RS Came in buy a boat from Kachina... Yeah... gave his deposit and did his drawings. He had 17 revisions on his drawing. Most of them only moving a stripe or flame an inch here or an inch there. Louie was Louie... Kept making the changes until the guy was completely satisfied!
His third trip out there was to see the boat come out of the mold. He was jumping up and down with hapiness. He even took the gelcoater to lunch. Before he left, he was giving hugs, high fiving everyone, and was extremely happy with everything. (This is on tape)
Well, an hour after his plane landed back here in So Cal, he called up and said that Louie had threatened him with a gun, everything was wrong with the boat... so on... Louie (Blindsided) tried to keep RS happy by listening to what he said was wrong. Louie even offered to make changes to the gelcoat that were not on the drawing... The guy is screaming "I want my money back."
That is where that stands now. I think Kachina is even still trying to work with the situation.
Here is the hilarious part. This guy, R.S. has done this to other builders in the past year or so. He did it to Commander, ask Si, LaveyCraft and Shockwave.
What the hell is this guys problem...
If he is so adimate about his case, why did he get a new screen name? Because we could track old posts from where he did this to the other builders?
Bob.
Guy sounds like a whack job.. Either that or he has some get rich quick (or boat for free) method that he's working on ?
RD
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He is one of a kind... We Hope!
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what was his old screen name?
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I think I met this guy at the SW booth last year. Complete Bafoon if it's the same guy. BD or DAB is this the same guy? RD you are right, complete wacko and has no business around boats at all. If it's the same guy, he was dealing with DAB (dave) on the purchase of his boat. He kept calling Dave, "Steve". It became a running joke all year with DAB.
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I am pretty sure Kachina wasn't allowed at the OC boat show.....
Something to do with Disneyland already having all of the permits in Anaheim for Dragons,Fairys and Dalmations. :idea:
That's funny shiat
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what was his old screen name?
I am going to let him come out with it if he has the balls... I bet we dont hear from this guy again.
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I think I met this guy at the SW booth last year. Complete Bafoon if it's the same guy. BD or DAB is this the same guy? RD you are right, complete wacko and has no business around boats at all. If it's the same guy, he was dealing with DAB (dave) on the purchase of his boat. He kept calling Dave, "Steve". It became a running joke all year with DAB.
But I thought he was doing the RWB with the CEO & CFO?, of course that was before the BWI down in the OC after LE pulled him over for the BWI. J/K :)
Sounds like the guys is a little of balance. I hate scammers. :mad:
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WTF??? This guy is a joke...Why would someone try to impose this type of burden on someone...??? Fockin A-HOLE!!!
Must be Schizophrenia
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But I thought he was doing the RWB with the CEO & CFO?, of course that was before the BWI down in the OC after LE pulled him over for the BWI. J/K :)
Sounds like the guys is a little of balance. I hate scammers. :mad:
LMAO.... oh was that another acronym???? sorry!!! :rollside:
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I think I met this guy at the SW booth last year. Complete Bafoon if it's the same guy. BD or DAB is this the same guy? RD you are right, complete wacko and has no business around boats at all. If it's the same guy, he was dealing with DAB (dave) on the purchase of his boat. He kept calling Dave, "Steve". It became a running joke all year with DAB.
Yes jeff thats the same guy..................... :rolleyes:
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I don't know what you guys are getting so wound up about.......Louie ran out of dragon, evil wizard and troll patterns when his clients boat was in the mold. Clear case of fraud.........He was only left with large breast, face and lizzard patterns.........The guy should have been mad....
The Kachina staff has since gone to see all of the Lord of the Ring, Harry Potter, and Little Mermaid movies and an abundance of new patterns have now been placed into the graphics portfolio
Restitution has been served.........Case closed......
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what was his old screen name?
SHADOW :rollside:
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I think I met this guy at the SW booth last year. Complete Bafoon if it's the same guy. BD or DAB is this the same guy? RD you are right, complete wacko and has no business around boats at all. If it's the same guy, he was dealing with DAB (dave) on the purchase of his boat. He kept calling Dave, "Steve". It became a running joke all year with DAB.
That's pure comedy... thanks for the reminder... yeah it was Steve all year :) Jeff, I think it's the same guy... man o' man... If he actually purchases a boat and takes delivery, I'm selling my toy cause that guy should not be allowed on the water...
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I don't know what you guys are getting so wound up about.......Louie ran out of dragon, evil wizard and troll patterns when his clients boat was in the mold. Clear case of fraud.........He was only left with large breast, face and lizzard patterns.........The guy should have been mad....
The Kachina staff has since gone to see all of the Lord of the Ring, Harry Potter, and Little Mermaid movies and an abundance of new patterns have now been placed into the graphics portfolio
Restitution has been served.........Case closed......
They only paint what people pay money to have on there...
a $ is a $...
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I don't know what you guys are getting so wound up about.......Louie ran out of dragon, evil wizard and troll patterns when his clients boat was in the mold. Clear case of fraud.........He was only left with large breast, face and lizzard patterns.........The guy should have been mad....
The Kachina staff has since gone to see all of the Lord of the Ring, Harry Potter, and Little Mermaid movies and an abundance of new patterns have now been placed into the graphics portfolio
Restitution has been served.........Case closed......
hey douche bag is it your relative or what? they will paint or gel to the customers specs!
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I don't know what you guys are getting so wound up about.......Louie ran out of dragon, evil wizard and troll patterns when his clients boat was in the mold. Clear case of fraud.........He was only left with large breast, face and lizzard patterns.........The guy should have been mad....
The Kachina staff has since gone to see all of the Lord of the Ring, Harry Potter, and Little Mermaid movies and an abundance of new patterns have now been placed into the graphics portfolio
Restitution has been served.........Case closed......
LMAO
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They only paint what people pay money to have on there...
a $ is a $...
Easy Killa...........Read your sig line.......Just piling on a little. I think Louie does a great job.....Almost bought a 34'er a couple of years ago........
Gotta admit.......There's a lot of strange chit that comes outta that paint booth.........On the other hand, I've seen some very nice work.....
It's the lure of "CUSTOM" and allowing those with an imagination to personalize a boat........The "you want it, I'll paint it" is going to bring some different customers in and some strange paint out..........
Just poking a little fun at the numb nutz that's got you wound up........
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Easy Killa...........Read your sig line.......Just piling on a little. I think Louie does a great job.....Almost bought a 34'er a couple of years ago........
Gotta admit.......There's a lot of strange chit that comes outta that paint booth.........On the other hand, I've seen some very nice work.....
It's the lure of "CUSTOM" and allowing those with an imagination to personalize a boat........The "you want it, I'll paint it" is going to bring some different customers in and some strange paint out..........
Just poking a little fun at the numb nutz that's got you wound up........
:D
I was just there when a customer was ...designing.... their boat.
Your statement of "you want it, I'll paint it" is absolutely true!!!!
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If what is posted here is correct this guy is way fallen off his rocker. What is his point in doing this? I just don't see it. Way wrong to take up the boat builders time like that.
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hey douche bag is it your relative or what? they will paint or gel to the customers specs!
It's Mr Douche Bag to you focker.............. :crossx:
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Alright, Here is the whole scoop on this whole deal. I bet some of you will remember this guy when I am done!
Over the last year or two, this guy "Thumper," initials R.S., has been around.
Had Louie known who this guy was before he made a deposit, Louie would have asked him to leave.
RS Came in buy a boat from Kachina... Yeah... gave his deposit and did his drawings. He had 17 revisions on his drawing. Most of them only moving a stripe or flame an inch here or an inch there. Louie was Louie... Kept making the changes until the guy was completely satisfied!
His third trip out there was to see the boat come out of the mold. He was jumping up and down with hapiness. He even took the gelcoater to lunch. Before he left, he was giving hugs, high fiving everyone, and was extremely happy with everything. (This is on tape)
Well, an hour after his plane landed back here in So Cal, he called up and said that Louie had threatened him with a gun, everything was wrong with the boat... so on... Louie (Blindsided) tried to keep RS happy by listening to what he said was wrong. Louie even offered to make changes to the gelcoat that were not on the drawing... The guy is screaming "I want my money back."
That is where that stands now. I think Kachina is even still trying to work with the situation.
Here is the hilarious part. This guy, R.S. has done this to other builders in the past year or so. He did it to Commander, ask Si, LaveyCraft and Shockwave.
What the hell is this guys problem...
If he is so adimate about his case, why did he get a new screen name? Because we could track old posts from where he did this to the other builders?
Bob.
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I feel your scorn and I accept it. However your facts are wrong on all points. Remember what Elvis said, "Truth is like the sun, you can shut it out for a time, but it ain't going away." It will all come out in the soap suds.
Deceit is always in haste, however honesty can wait a fair leasuire.
The fewer the facts, the stronger the opinion.
Author: Arnold H. Glasow
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BAD Kachina:
Outstanding rational post. Thank you...time will tell.
The time is always right to do what is right. ~Martin Luther King Jr.
*I tried for months to resolve the problem but without ever getting ONE response...ALL ATTEMPTS DOCUMENTED!!!
Happy Holidays to all.
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I feel your scorn and I accept it. However your facts are wrong on all points. Remember what Elvis said, "Truth is like the sun, you can shut it out for a time, but it ain't going away." It will all come out in the soap suds.
Deceit is always in haste, however honesty can wait a fair leasuire.
The fewer the facts, the stronger the opinion.
Author: Arnold H. Glasow
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BAD Kachina:
Outstanding rational post. Thank you...time will tell.
The time is always right to do what is right. ~Martin Luther King Jr.
*I tried for months to resolve the problem but without ever getting ONE response...ALL ATTEMPTS DOCUMENTED!!!
Happy Holidays to all.
and the plot thickens...........
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Its sort of comical how he wont just say what his problem is with the boat. Only that hes filed some suit over it. I have been to the Kachina shop and Louie struck me as a guy who would do anything for anybody to make them happy with the boat they chose.
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Its sort of comical how he wont just say what his problem is with the boat.
Drama queen.
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I feel your scorn and I accept it. However your facts are wrong on all points. Remember what Elvis said, "Truth is like the sun, you can shut it out for a time, but it ain't going away." It will all come out in the soap suds.
Deceit is always in haste, however honesty can wait a fair leasuire.
The fewer the facts, the stronger the opinion.
Author: Arnold H. Glasow
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BAD Kachina:
Outstanding rational post. Thank you...time will tell.
The time is always right to do what is right. ~Martin Luther King Jr.
*I tried for months to resolve the problem but without ever getting ONE response...ALL ATTEMPTS DOCUMENTED!!!
Happy Holidays to all.
Wow...very articulate I must say. Is he composing these at the Library? This is getting interesting :argue: