yeah Hal your right. Just had bad experiances with Hondas over the years. I'd never ever buy one. Believe me my WR is fast had it up to 95 this weekend out on a paved road outside of Parker. I backed off after that speed. I still had a little more throttle. Weight doesn't bother me one bit. I don't think the WR is heavy at all. I don't ride easy either I run my WR pretty hard and it's just amazing! Just comes down to perferance I guess.