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Thread: Pulling a SBC 350 for the first time.

  1. #1
    Sand Dawg
    I've pulled motors out of cars and trucks but not boats till now
    Couple of questions,
    after getting everything disconnected? from the motor and only
    having a inch and a half of room in the front of the motor to play
    with will it pull straight up or out like in a car?
    do you have to drop the out drive to pull the motor in order to
    disconnect the two?
    I don't want to go with a 383 stroker, my out drive won't handle
    that kind of torque, but any good combinations intake/carb/cam/heads
    on a tight budget to make some extra ponys and torque for a SBC 350?
    thanks
    ps reason for pulling the motor...low compression between#3 and 5 cylinder.

  2. #2
    mike37
    I've pulled motors out of cars and trucks but not boats till now
    Couple of questions,
    after getting everything disconnected? from the motor and only
    having a inch and a half of room in the front of the motor to play
    with will it pull straight up or out like in a car?
    do you have to drop the out drive to pull the motor in order to
    disconnect the two?
    I don't want to go with a 383 stroker, my out drive won't handle
    that kind of torque, but any good combinations intake/carb/cam/heads
    on a tight budget to make some extra ponys and torque for a SBC 350?
    thanks
    ps reason for pulling the motor...low compression between#3 and 5 cylinder.
    you my need to pull the drive if you cant move the motor forward enough to slide it off the input shaft
    your out drive is like a transmission on a car you will need to separate them when removing the motor
    you may be able to remove the seat to give your self more room

  3. #3
    Sand Dawg
    I understand disconnecting the motor from the out drive
    but that is what I was trying to ask, how long is the out put
    shaft, between the out drive and the flywheel....... usually?
    thanks for the reply.

  4. #4
    mike37
    I understand disconnecting the motor from the out drive
    but that is what I was trying to ask, how long is the out put
    shaft, between the out drive and the flywheel....... usually?
    thanks for the reply.
    If I remember correctly there is about 5" of spline into the coupler

  5. #5
    Wicked Performance Boats
    If you had low compression between 3 and 5, I'd pull the head first and check to see if its just a head gasket Budlight

  6. #6
    Sand Dawg
    just wanted to pull the motor for ease to work on the motor.
    head gasket is my first thought

  7. #7
    HTRDLNCN
    If its a merc the drive needs to come out.
    Anytime you pull the engine you risk changing
    the engine to drive alignment the only way to check
    it is thru the drive hole. So drive needs to come out.
    When you reassemble after pulling engine out youll
    need an alignment shaft to make sure everything is lined up correctly.
    FROM BOATFIX.COM:
    Below you will find information on removal and replacement of Mercruiser outdrives, series # 1 and Alpha Gen I's. We do not claim to be experts in all fields. Nor can we promise to be correct on all issues. Nor can we address the content of these pages. (Please read our legal disclaimer page)
    But, I hope you will find this page useful. We want to thank Aftermarket Marine for their technical assistance with this page. Aftermarket Marine is a supplier of high quality aftermarket parts for outboards, inboards, and inboard / outboards to BoatFix.
    REMOVAL AND REPLACEMENT OF OUTDRIVES ON MERCRUISER #1 AND ALPHA GEN I
    REMOVAL OF OUTDRIVE
    1) Start with outdrive down and control box in forward gear.
    2) Remove the nuts holding the rearward trim & tilt cylinder anchor pin, save parts.
    3) Pull the trim & tilt cylinder heads off of the rear pin, save parts.
    4) Remove the six 5/8 locking nuts & washers from the outdrive at the bell housing, save parts.
    5) Bump the unit downward or lift & drop it lightly to break the seal between the drive and bell housing.
    6) Pull rearward on the unit and it should fall into your arms. (Be careful, they are heavy. We suggest two people for this step.)
    7) Clean surfaces of drive and bell housing.
    If you encounter problems in pulling off the drive in step 6 above.
    If it wouldn't come off, there are several tricks to remove it. They are listed below in order of difficulty.
    1) Try a piece of wood or metal across the two ears at the bottom of the ring, lift and drop the unit on it.
    2) Try a piece of wood or metal between the cap front and ring, then lift the unit up to hit it.
    3) Last resort, jam a piece of wood between cap and ring, put the rams back on and trim up.
    All of the above steps help push the unit outward and off. If the problem is that the gimbal bearing has become stuck on the shaft, (a common problem) the bearing might still be there when the unit comes free
    REPLACEMENT OF OUTDRIVE
    1) After checking gimbal bearing and bellows for leaks, install new outdrive mounting set.
    2) Use a recommended sealant / glue on the large square 'O' ring to the shoulder in the bell.
    3) Use a recommended sealant / glue in the water passage in the groove on the bell.
    4) Replace the "O" rings on the shaft of the drive.
    5) Use a recommended sealant on the outdrive gasket and place it over the studs of the bell.
    Unless you have an outdrive mounting dolly, two people will be required for the next steps.
    6) Stand the unit upright and rotate the brass shifter (intermediate shift shaft) clockwise looking down.
    7) The travel of the shifter should be from 10:00 to 12:00 looking down, 12:00 being straight ahead.
    8) Roughly speaking, the shifting should be center of boat forward or 12:00, 11:00 neutral, 10:00 reverse.
    9) The shift box in the boat should still be in forward.
    10) As you rotate the shifter clockwise, turn the prop counter clock wise until it locks.
    Never allow the prop to go clockwise or it will rotate the shifter out of position. If this happens go back to 10.
    On the bell housing of the transom plate is the shift arm with a roller on it. The aluminum slide piece on the cable tip has two arms, which go to the top with the arms inward.
    11) Place the roller from the shift arm between these two arms. The track below the shift shaft should be facing straight ahead. This is where the top of the brass shifter on the drive slides in upon installation.
    12) With the drive in forward (step 10) guide the tip of the drive yoke through the gimble bearing.
    13) Slide the unit forward. As soon as it reaches the shift slide, guide the slide into the square hole on the drive.
    14) Look in the right side and recheck the shift arm position and roller position (step 11).
    15) Slide the unit forward until the main shaft hits the coupler spline. It may not go in at this point.
    16) Keep pressure forward (inward) on the outdrive. Turn the prop counter clockwise, (it will be hard). This will rotate the shaft. Continue this until it slides in, keeping pressure inward as you turn.
    17) Once the shaft goes into the coupler the unit will no longer turn counter clockwise. Do not force it.
    18) Bump the unit forward with the palms of your hands until the drive seats, recheck the roller (step 11).
    19) If the unit resists installation, lift the unit and check that the track on the upper shift is straight and that the brass shifter is going into it smoothly and straight.
    20) Bump the unit the rest of the way on and replace the nuts and washers.
    It is good to check the shifting after only two nuts are applied. If removal is required it saves time.
    21) Replace the trim rams and bushings.
    Before reinstalling the drive unit the engine alignment must be checked. You will need an alignment tool. This can be bought, borrowed, stolen, etc. This verifies proper alignment between the input shaft of the drive and the coupler. The tool should slide in to the couper with only slight resistance. If it is not correct the coupler will wear prematurely, causing loss of all propulsion. The engine must be removed to replace the coupler.

  8. #8
    Sand Dawg
    the "taking the out drive off" instructions
    worked great.
    Now with everything undone and away from the motor
    and the two motor mount nuts off, does the small
    looking bell housing need to be unbolted from the
    back of the motor or take out the two bolts that are
    facing down just back a little further from the bell housing
    and take the housing and motor out as one?
    thanks guys
    Tim

  9. #9
    HTRDLNCN
    the housing and motor out as one?
    thanks guys
    Tim
    yup..

  10. #10
    Sand Dawg
    So can anyone tell me if I take out the two bolts
    that are pointed down, just behind the flywheel
    housing, and everything else is away from the motor
    I should be able to lift the motor up and out.
    Are there rear motor mounts and they are these
    two I'm talking about?

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