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  1. #1
    Blown 472
    Hey smokin, I have included his e mail addy so you can take him to task too.
    Will Americans Join Iraqis, Lebanese and Palestinians as Neocon Victims?
    By PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS
    What explains the indifference of the Bush administration to the slaughter of civilians in Iraq, Lebanon, and Gaza?
    As of the morning of July 19, Israeli bombardments of Lebanese civilian residential districts and public infrastructure have murdered 300 Lebanese, wounded 1,000, and displaced 500,000. The Lebanese prime minister said that Israel’s attack has caused “unimaginable losses” and that his government will seek compensation from Israel.
    In Gaza Israel has murdered scores of Palestinian civilians in the past few days.
    In Iraq the civilian daily death toll has risen above 100.
    These dead are not Hezbollah militia. They are not Hamas militia. They are not al Qaeda or Sunni insurgents. They are civilians.
    Frustrated by Hezbollah, Israel is lashing out at hapless civilians, knowing that the US will protect Israel from UN Security Council condemnation.
    Frustrated by Sunni insurgents, the US has instigated sectarian strife.
    Bush has stonewalled the UN, our European allies, and the Lebanese prime minister, all of whom are calling and pleading for Bush to pressure the Israelis to stop their cowardly slaughter from the air of Lebanese civilians.
    The Guardian (July 19) reports that Bush gave Israel the green light to attack Lebanon and has given Olmert another week to pound Lebanon.
    US Secretary of State Condi Rice has announced that she will go to the Middle East to resolve “the crisis” when it is appropriate. Apparently, the appropriate time is not when people are dying and a country, which had only just recovered from the last Israeli invasion, is again being bombed into rubble.
    How many more war crimes must Israel commit before Bush and Condi Rice put aside their indifference?
    On July 19 the Israelis turned their air attack on the Christian area of Beirut. The Lebanese Christians can thank the American evangelical Rev. John. Hagee, who has thrown his 18,000 member Texas church behind Israeli aggression.
    Bush cannot claim public support for his indifference.
    As of noon July 19, 800,000 people had participated in CNNÂ’s Quick Vote, with the result that 55% oppose IsraelÂ’s attack on Lebanon. This result is despite the fact that US television reporting explains the news from the Israeli perspective.
    Similarly, in Israel a survey published by Israeli daily newspaper Yedioth Ahronoth showed 53 per cent of Israelis polled said Israel should hold negotiations to secure the release of the Israeli soldier captured in Gaza, while 43 per cent backed a military operation.
    A poll taken by the Israeli newspaper Haaretz reports that 28 per cent of Israelis believe Israel should immediately stop bombing Lebanon, compared to 7 per cent who believe that the bombing should continue until the captured soldiers are freed, and 14 per cent who believe bombing should continue until Lebanon agrees to disarm Hezbollah--a task that IsraelÂ’s invasion has made more impossible than ever.
    If these polls are reliable, one can conclude that the US and Israeli populations are more moral, and more concerned with human life, than are the leaders of the two countries.
    Neither can Bush claim that he is supporting Israel because he is IsraelÂ’s friend. If Bush were IsraelÂ’s friend, he would not have given a green light to IsraelÂ’s aggression, which will create more hatred of Israel.
    As a number of Israeli writers have pointed out, Israel has shown tooth and claw to its Arab neighbors for decades to no avail.
    Writing in Haaretz (July 19) Yitzhak Laor notes that Israel’s problems are not the result of insufficient bombing and destruction of Arab populations. Yet, once again Israeli militants are “enlarging the circle of hostilities, including harming civilians. What Israel’s ‘strategists’ have to offer is the destruction of yet another country.”
    Laor says the Americans can do this in Iraq with less consequence for themselves, because “the Americans do not intend to live in this region.” Israelis cannot afford to show only tooth and claw to its neighbors, because “we do live here.”
    It sometimes seems Bush goes beyond indifference to contentment with the slaughter of Muslim civilians. Bush has even come across as gleeful as if he is on a dove hunt in a baited Texas field where joy resides in the killing of countless birds.
    Many Muslims believe that Bush and Israel see them as animals to be slain. On July 17, neocon John Bolton, Bush’s unconfirmed ambassador to the UN, gave credence to this Muslim belief when he announced that Israelis killed by terrorists were more important than the Lebanese civilians killed by Israel. Bolton said that there is no “moral equivalence” between Lebanese civilians killed by Israel and Israeli civilians killed by Muslim terrorists: “It’s simply not the same thing to say that it’s the same act to deliberately target innocent civilians, to desire their deaths, to fire rockets and use explosive devices or kidnapping versus the sad and highly unfortunate consequences of self-defense.”
    In BoltonÂ’s sick mind, Lebanese civilians are not experiencing terrorism when Israel deliberately targets them and drops high explosives on their apartment buildings, streets, bridges, power plants, and bombs the Beirut International Airport. This, says Bolton, is Israel acting in self-defense.
    If Israel grabs Palestinian or Lebanese land and murders civilians, that is “self-defense,” but if someone responds to Israeli aggression with a rocket, that is “Muslim terrorism.”
    The world is sick of this double-standard. Unfortunately, not enough Americans and Israelis are.
    Consequently, conflict will continue and escalate. Laor writes that “the director of the American Jewish Committee’s Israel/Middle East Office, Eran Lerman, is already recommending going to war against Syria.”
    And so are the American neoconservatives who control the Bush administration, Washington think tanks, and media positions once held by true American conservatives.
    Isolated in their evil, the neoconservatives are frantically and shrilly demanding that Bush join Israel in military attacks on Syria and Iran in order to “build democracy” and to clear the Middle East of any opposition to Israel’s unbridled self-interest. The crazed David Horowitz writes that “Israel is doing the work of the rest of the civilized world.”
    Neoconservatives believe that the US and Israel can extirpate Islam with fire and sword and that the present opportunity to escalate the current conflict into generalized war in the Middle East must not be missed.
    Neocon warmongers have stolen the conservative name, the Republican Party, and a portion of the evangelical movement.
    Are Americans too inattentive and too brainwashed to prevent their moronic president and his neocon government from initiating a dangerous war?
    Paul Craig Roberts was Assistant Secretary of the Treasury in the Reagan administration. He is coauthor of The Tyranny of Good Intentions.He can be reached at: paulcraigroberts@yahoo.com

  2. #2
    Old Texan
    Hezbollah.
    What part have they played in getting things started? All your 'nitwit Roberts' mentions is the deaths are not Hezbollah militia, but citizens. Could these be sympathetic citizens? Perhaps Hezbollah puts civilians in danger for political sympathy? Perhaps Hezbollah really doesn't give a rat'sass about the citizens and uses them as a tool to advance their reign of hatred.
    How can these "Roberts types" never take into account the role Hezbollah, Hamas, and alQuaeda play. The whole Palestinian movement is based on hatred.
    Incredible.

  3. #3
    Blown 472
    Hezbollah.
    What part have they played in getting things started? All your 'nitwit Roberts' mentions is the deaths are not Hezbollah militia, but citizens. Could these be sympathetic citizens? Perhaps Hezbollah puts civilians in danger for political sympathy? Perhaps Hezbollah really doesn't give a rat'sass about the citizens and uses them as a tool to advance their reign of hatred.
    How can these "Roberts types" never take into account the role Hezbollah, Hamas, and alQuaeda play. The whole Palestinian movement is based on hatred.
    Incredible.
    Hatred of what??

  4. #4
    Old Texan
    Jews, Americans, Christians, You, Brits, pretty much all of Western Civilization, German Shepherds, Pasties, Hindus, Yogi the Bear, Clint Eastwood, Barbra Steisand, Pee Wee Herman, The 3 Stooges, Seinfeld, Leno, Albert Pujols, George Clooney, Paul Craig Roberts, Mr Rogers and his neighborhood, Left Handed relief pitchers, Jesse Jackson, etc.
    Blown they hate themselves for gawds sakes. How else can they be in the environment they are raised in? Taught from the time they can walk to kill the enemy. The enemy is anyone that doesn't think like them or act like them or believe in their bullshit cause. It ain't about oil or power for the general man on thestreet over there it's about blind faith in a crankpot interpreted way of life. They have been hating for centuries and know nothing else.
    HATE, it's a nasty way of life. If there were no Jews or Americans there would be someone else to hate and dedicate every breathing moment to wanting to kill. Shit's been going on forever and until the religious leaders turn the tide it will continue.
    It seems pretty clear that if left unabated these radical hate mongers would eat the world like a cancer until all was destroyed. They don't know peace nor are they taught to want peace. It's that simple.

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    Blown 472
    Jews, Americans, Christians, You, Brits, pretty much all of Western Civilization, German Shepherds, Pasties, Hindus, Yogi the Bear, Clint Eastwood, Barbra Steisand, Pee Wee Herman, The 3 Stooges, Seinfeld, Leno, Albert Pujols, George Clooney, Paul Craig Roberts, Mr Rogers and his neighborhood, Left Handed relief pitchers, Jesse Jackson, etc.
    Blown they hate themselves for gawds sakes. How else can they be in the environment they are raised in? Taught from the time they can walk to kill the enemy. The enemy is anyone that doesn't think like them or act like them or believe in their bullshit cause. It ain't about oil or power for the general man on thestreet over there it's about blind faith in a crankpot interpreted way of life. They have been hating for centuries and know nothing else.
    HATE, it's a nasty way of life. If there were no Jews or Americans there would be someone else to hate and dedicate every breathing moment to wanting to kill. Shit's been going on forever and until the religious leaders turn the tide it will continue.
    It seems pretty clear that if left unabated these radical hate mongers would eat the world like a cancer until all was destroyed. They don't know peace nor are they taught to want peace. It's that simple.
    Strange, I have quite a few friends that are muslim and they dont hate me, nor do they foam at the mouth hate, they are very nice folks. Must be them house sandniggers huh?

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    QuickJet
    Strange, I have quite a few friends that are muslim and they dont hate me, nor do they foam at the mouth hate, they are very nice folks. Must be them house sandniggers huh?
    That's the stupidest thing you've ever said...and you have said some pretty dumb things.
    They hate America and Israel more then they love their children or themselves.
    And in case you didn't know, your friends are sandniggers too.

  7. #7
    SmokinLowriderSS
    blown, I have had such poor results repeatedly explaining reality to 2 idiots on here, I have no desire to add a 3rd one to my list of fools I call onto the carpet.

  8. #8
    Old Texan
    Strange, I have quite a few friends that are muslim and they dont hate me, nor do they foam at the mouth hate, they are very nice folks. Must be them house sandniggers huh?
    Offpoint again. I'm talking about Hezbollah, Hamas, al Quaeda, and the militant islamic shame groups.
    Of course the majority of the muslim world are good people, and they are po'd right along with the rest of us about their world and beliefs being distorted and destroyed by the radical growth within.
    QuickJ nailed your reply pretty good. Too elaborate, if you have so many muslim friends, how do they react to your inappropriate racial slur.
    The cowards hide behind the innocent to deal their warfare. They are cowards that hide behind women and children and then cry out the Israelis and Americans are killing civilians. Propaganda.
    You spout off Liberal drivel and fail to see that you are judged along with P C Roberts as Islamic Radical Sympathizers. You justify their actions and deeds with half baked retorts and lame theories.
    Why is Lebanon being bombed and taken apart? Because that's where the bad guys are holed up, hiding amongst the innocent. Go ask one of your muslim buddies. Than again it's a good bet he's a converted muslim doing the liberal freethinker "in vogue" thing as another "phase" in his search for utopia and escape from reality. Find a real middle eastern immigrant of muslim faith and I guarantee you'll find no synpathy in him for the scum that have turned his homeland into a waste area and are trying to drag them back to the stone age. I heard Syrian immigrant today agreeing and justifying Israel's actions. His wishes were for the removal of the radical scum you continue to defend and endorse.
    Explain to us now why Hezbollah is justified in cowering behind women and children.

  9. #9
    Kurtis500
    This is how we did it before. NO HIDING FROM THIS!!
    Hezbolah needs a beating just like grandpa used to give.... weren't those guys jew haters too? just like ...???
    http://www.reese-457th.org/smoke.jpg

  10. #10
    Steve 1
    Strange, I have quite a few friends that are muslim and they dont hate me, nor do they foam at the mouth hate, they are very nice folks. Must be them house sandniggers huh?
    Ha Ha Ha Bullshit!! If they are praticing Muslims they are an mortal Enemy!!
    The Koran (Pickthall translation) says that disbelievers (non-Muslims) are “worst of created beings” (98:6), are “miscreants” (2:99, 24:55), are the worst beasts in Allah’s sight (8:22, 8:55); (some Christians and/or Jews were) turned into “apes and/or pigs” (2:65-66, 5:58-60, 7:166); are like frightened donkeys chased by a lion (74:50-51); are worse than cattle (7:179); are like dogs (7:176); they (idolators) are unclean (9:28); “evil” is upon them (16:27), evil (2:91, 2:99); “wicked” (80:42, 9:125); the “wrong-doers” (42:45, 2:254, 5:45); evil-doers (42:44); evil-livers (5:59); they have no good in them (8:23); are “guilty” for disbelieving (45:31, 83:29); on the side of Satan and are fighting for him (4:76-77); of the party of Satan (58:19); Allah assigns them devils for protecting friends (7:27); they choose devils for protecting friends (7:30); are partisan against Allah (25:55); are the “enemy” and “perverted” (63:4); have disgraced lives (22:9); are hypocrites (4:61); have a “diseased heart” (2:10, 9:125); are ill (84:20); are deaf, dumb, and blind, and have no sense (2:171); deaf and dumb and in darkness, Allah sends them astray (6:39); they have no sense (5:103, 10:100); a folk who do not understand (9:127); their fathers were unintelligent and had no knowledge or guidance (2:170, 5:104); are “a folk without intelligence”/ “most ignorant” (8:65, 6:111); losers who are deceived by Allah (2:6), and deceived by Satan (4:60); Allah sends devils against them to make them do evil (19:83); Allah cursed them for their unbelief (2:88-89), liars/they lie (2:10, 4:50, 9:42, 16:39, 16:105, 59:11), “losers” (5:53, 7:178-179); foolish and liars (7:66), liars and losers (58:18-19), in false pride and schism (38:2), among the lowest (58:20); the lowest of the low (95:4-6).

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