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  1. #11
    Seadog
    This is a tragedy in many ways. Too many people make the same mistake, just more often for the elderly. And they do not have the presence of mind to react properly. We do not allow for the review of driver's licenses because it is discrimination against the elderly. Between AARP, ACLU and weak politicians, it may never happen. And then we have to deal with the lack of options for those who are too old to drive, but do not need or cannot afford a care facility.
    The jails are too crowded with real criminals and it would cost a fortune for the state to take care of an 89 year old man in poor health. Even if they just handle it in the civil courts, it will mean that he will get indigent care for what is left of his life. I would love to hear how anyone will get justice in this case. With all the real criminals that heartlessly take lives all the time, I cannot get too much animosity over this old man.

  2. #12
    3 daytona`s
    Now everyone of you here remember if or when this may happen to your friend or family member on the other side.This is a disaster but what? He`s an old man made a terrible mistake,what in the hell is the point to put an old sick man in prison,get a life.He`s paid a price you`ll never know. :crossx:

  3. #13
    BoatPI
    Hre are a few facts that I learned from articles and tnoights interviews with the jurors who sat on this case.
    This was NOT the typical old man with pedal confusion. He intentionally drove over 300 YARDS, moving down numerous people, block after block. He killed 10.
    1. he was convicted of 10 counts gross vehicular manslaughter.
    2. Testimony included drivers tha twere forced off of the road by him after he was involved in a minor cossision just prior to the marker incident.
    3. After the killings he told police and witnesses that everyone should have got out of his way.
    4. Every jurror interviewed that I saw on TV tonight formed the opinion early on that the was guilty, and that the pedal confusion was not a viabale consideration given all of the facts. The feds even checked his car, no mehcanical issues and NO indication that he never applied the brakes-over a 300 yard period, with two dozen bodies struck!
    I can go on but all things point to a form of road rage occurring after the prior minor colision.
    Basically F*** u all was his attitude.
    Now if u think that he was a bit crazy, then why didn't the defense attorneys have a shrink provide testimony to that fact?
    For your own opinions. The jurors did not seem to have a difficult time doing so.
    article LA Times (http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la...home-headlines)

  4. #14
    THOR
    Now if u think that he was a bit crazy, then why didn't the defense attorneys have a shrink provide testimony to that fact?
    article LA Times (http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la...home-headlines)
    Since I am in the biz, I'll tell you why. Basically shrinks provide very little to help either side. Why? Opinions are what expert witnesses (what I do) do. They offer opinions to their clients (lawyers) that will help the case. But, opinions are only as good as the basis for which they are made. That being said, shrinks dont really have a basis for opinions because they are involved in a 'soft' science meaning it cant be proved or disproved. That is the sole reason why psychologists arent used all that much and why their opinions really arent worth a dime.

  5. #15
    Trailer Park Casanova
    Hre are a few facts that I learned from articles and tnoights interviews with the jurors who sat on this case.
    This was NOT the typical old man with pedal confusion. He intentionally drove over 300 YARDS, moving down numerous people, block after block. He killed 10.
    1. he was convicted of 10 counts gross vehicular manslaughter.
    2. Testimony included drivers tha twere forced off of the road by him after he was involved in a minor cossision just prior to the marker incident.
    3. After the killings he told police and witnesses that everyone should have got out of his way.
    4. Every jurror interviewed that I saw on TV tonight formed the opinion early on that the was guilty, and that the pedal confusion was not a viabale consideration given all of the facts. The feds even checked his car, no mehcanical issues and NO indication that he never applied the brakes-over a 300 yard period, with two dozen bodies struck!
    I can go on but all things point to a form of road rage occurring after the prior minor colision.
    Basically F*** u all was his attitude.
    Now if u think that he was a bit crazy, then why didn't the defense attorneys have a shrink provide testimony to that fact?
    For your own opinions. The jurors did and did not seem to have a difficult time doing so.
    article LA Times (http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la...home-headlines)
    Very good take PI.

  6. #16
    C-2
    I’ve always thought he would end up guilty as the result of negligence, and rightfully so.
    I don’t think Weller knew WTF was going on during those 20 seconds. Short of conclusive scientific evidence or somebody riding shotgun, nobody knows what happened – not even Weller himself.
    They should have put DMV on trial, it would have been more productive.

  7. #17
    BajaMike
    Hre are a few facts that I learned from articles and tnoights interviews with the jurors who sat on this case.
    This was NOT the typical old man with pedal confusion. He intentionally drove over 300 YARDS, moving down numerous people, block after block. He killed 10.
    1. he was convicted of 10 counts gross vehicular manslaughter.
    2. Testimony included drivers tha twere forced off of the road by him after he was involved in a minor cossision just prior to the marker incident.
    3. After the killings he told police and witnesses that everyone should have got out of his way.
    4. Every jurror interviewed that I saw on TV tonight formed the opinion early on that the was guilty, and that the pedal confusion was not a viabale consideration given all of the facts. The feds even checked his car, no mehcanical issues and NO indication that he never applied the brakes-over a 300 yard period, with two dozen bodies struck!
    I can go on but all things point to a form of road rage occurring after the prior minor colision.
    Basically F*** u all was his attitude.
    Now if u think that he was a bit crazy, then why didn't the defense attorneys have a shrink provide testimony to that fact?
    For your own opinions. The jurors did and did not seem to have a difficult time doing so.
    article LA Times (http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la...home-headlines)
    Good take on this case, there was a lot of evidence introduced that the guy was pissed off because of a minor traffic accident that happened right before these murders, and just mowed people down.....300 yards and you can't move your foot from the gas to the brake??? It does not make sense.
    The guy should go to jail.....It's a case of "old person rage"!!!
    :idea:

  8. #18
    BoatPI
    Thanks.. But we exchange alot of intresting topics on this board. Common sense comes into play with this case. Having prepeared for many trials, I always did so through the eyes of a juror that would hear my presentation. Using that perspective I lost one case in 32 years. So it seemed to work.
    This incident took three years to come to trial. I suspect that the DA did not see a continuing threat from Weller, and spent many months putting together a near perfect prosecution.
    I think the results showed that they did an excellent job of just that.

  9. #19
    Kilrtoy
    Now everyone of you here remember if or when this may happen to your friend or family member on the other side.This is a disaster but what? He`s an old man made a terrible mistake,what in the hell is the point to put an old sick man in prison,get a life.He`s paid a price you`ll never know. :crossx:
    BULLSHIT.
    Follow the story a little closer
    FRY HIS F***** ASS

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