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Thread: Hey Blown here is something we might agree on.

  1. #1
    eliminatedsprinter
    Carl Rove is overrated big time.
    He has done nothing but get Bush votes in states where Democrats are about as popular as bad breath, while at the same time playing into the Dems' hands by helping them paint Republicians as the party of big dumb white guys.
    This is something I noticed long ago (2001). Now the whole party should be able to see the results of his strategic limitations
    It's time for him to go.

  2. #2
    Knotbad
    Carl Rove is overrated big time.
    He has done nothing but get Bush votes in states where Democrats are about as popular as bad breath, while at the same time playing into the Dems' hands by helping them paint Republicians as the party of big dumb white guys.
    This is something I noticed long ago (2001). Now the whole party should be able to see the results of his strategic limitations
    It's time for him to go.
    Word.

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    eliminatedsprinter
    By supporting "moderate" Dem candidates in many "red" areas, Rahm Emanual managed to put the far left in charge of congress. It was a clever twist on the classic "bait and switch" con and he used it to outsmart Rove big time. The sad thing is, it was obvious and Rove should have seen it comming years ago, but his limited PR skills just couldn't adapt.

  4. #4
    QuickJet
    By supporting "moderate" Dem candidates in many "red" areas, Rahm Emanual managed to put the far left in charge of congress. It was a clever twist on the classic "bait and switch" con and he used it to outsmart Rove big time. The sad thing is, it was obvious and Rove should have seen it comming years ago, but his limited PR skills just couldn't adapt.
    Well it could also be construde as geniouse on Rove's part as well. By "forfitting " the mid terms to the Dems, it gives a chance for everyone to see how radicalized the left is (especially with Palosi in at the helm). Upon seeing this, the Republicans have a far better chance of retaining the white house in '08. Of course the Dems are going to watch what they do and say for awhile, but it will only be temporary.

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    eliminatedsprinter
    Well it could also be construde as geniouse on Rove's part as well. By "forfitting " the mid terms to the Dems, it gives a chance for everyone to see how radicalized the left is (especially with Palosi in at the helm). Upon seeing this, the Republicans have a far better chance of retaining the white house in '08. Of course the Dems are going to watch what they do and say for awhile, but it will only be temporary.
    It's been said that the best way to defeat the dems is to let them lead.
    However, if Rove had a clue how to direct PR to minorities, young people, working women, and others that are not already solidly Republician, such a destructive surrender tactic would not have to be hoped for.
    It has been said that "when a Democrat sees a room full of black people, he sees a resource that can be exploited. When a Republician sees a room full of black people, he sees aliens he dosen't understand". Carl Rove is the living embodiment of this and it is true, with him, for young people, working women, city folks, latinos, etc, etc, as well.

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    Poster X
    How "radicalized" is Pelosi?

  7. #7
    QuickJet
    How "radicalized" is Pelosi?
    Very!!
    Higher taxes for "ALL" to "pay our share" as she says. NO parental notification to parents of minors who seek abortions. I'm pro choice by the way but I find it funny that my kid can't go on a feild trip without my written consent but can have her guts sucked out of her like she was just getting her nails done. She' a Strong union supporter (although her winery in Napa hires only "illegal" non-union workers) Open boarder supporter. She feels we actually need our economy saturated with the worlds poorest and unskilled people.
    You name it, she's on the left of it. She is NOT a moderate but a radical left nut. Dems don't like here either. They even say she is too far left and "radicalized'.
    Watch how the Murtha thing plays out.

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    eliminatedsprinter
    How "radicalized" is Pelosi?
    That depends on how "radical" you consider socialism. She is a straight up socialist. She supports all forms of tax increases, and opposes all tax cuts. The only time she has oppsed a tax increase is when it was the smaller of 2 choices. She is 100% anti second amendment. She is in favor of all forms of increased government control of industry and commerce. In the americian political spectrum she is as far left as it gets and her voting record is basically identical to that of Bernie Sanders (the only self discribed socialist in congress), however she is actually to the left of him on gun issues.

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    Poster X
    I'm all for taxation to pay down the debt. I consider taxation a patriotic duty equal to military service. The current debt is growing faster than current taxation can pay. In the end, we will either bankrupt the country or put our children in the position of blanket taxation that could literally destroy their opportunities to pursue the good life. Vis-a-vis boating, motorcycling, custom cars and the many other middle class perks we now enjoy.
    I can find no evidence Pilosi supports an open border? I'm not sure I can find anyone who supports an open border sans an illegal alien.
    Government control of industry AND commerce? lol..I can't find any evidence of that either. Wouldn't that fall under the guise of communism or totalinarianism?
    Can it be possible you just don't like Pelosi?

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    eliminatedsprinter
    I'm all for taxation to pay down the debt. I consider taxation a patriotic duty equal to military service. The current debt is growing faster than current taxation can pay. In the end, we will either bankrupt the country or put our children in the position of blanket taxation that could literally destroy their opportunities to pursue the good life. Vis-a-vis boating, motorcycling, custom cars and the many other middle class perks we now enjoy.
    I can find no evidence Pilosi supports an open border? I'm not sure I can find anyone who supports an open border sans an illegal alien.
    Government control of industry AND commerce? lol..I can't find any evidence of that either. Wouldn't that fall under the guise of communism or totalinarianism?
    Can it be possible you just don't like Pelosi?
    If you can't find any evidence of her wanting more government control of industry or commerce you simply are not looking. She supports all sorts of increased government controls and restrictions on a variety of businses and industry. I dosen't matter if it is for environmental or social reasons. The only freedoms she seems to support are sexual freedoms and some types of first amendment freedoms. Other than that, I actually would discribe her views as pretty totalitarian.

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