Here!!

[Steve 1]

Bent I strongly suggest you educate yourself the outside world is not real complicated.
Here is a start ;
March 31, 1977, the Dutch newspaper Trouw published an interview with Palestine Liberation Organization executive committee member Zahir Muhsein. Here's what he said:
The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct "Palestinian people" to oppose Zionism.
For tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa, while as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan.
Can you read that?? Then you will understand there are NO Palestinains just some rubbish causing trouble.

[Blown 472]

What was the Balfour Declaration?
The British pledge that formally committed the British to the Zionist cause, was the Balfour Declaration of November 1917, an instrument created after the Husayn-McMahon Correspondence and the Sykes-Picot Agreement.
Before the emergence of David Lloyd George as prime minister and Arthur James Balfour as foreign secretary in December 1916, the Liberal Herbert Asquith government had viewed a Jewish entity in Palestine as detrimental to British strategic aims in the Middle East. Lloyd George and his Tory supporters, however, saw British control over Palestine as much more attractive than the proposed British-French condominium. Since the time of the Sykes-Picot Agreement, Palestine had taken on increased strategic importance because of its proximity to the Suez Canal, where the British garrison had increased to 300,000 men, and because of a planned British attack on Ottoman Syria originating from Egypt. Lloyd George was determined, as early as March 1917, that Palestine should become British and that he would rely on its conquest by British troops to obtain the abrogation of the Sykes-Picot Agreement.
In the new British strategic thinking, the Zionists appeared as a potential ally capable of safeguarding British imperial interests in the region. Furthermore, as British war prospects dimmed throughout 1917, the War Cabinet calculated that supporting a Jewish entity in Palestine would mobilize America's influential Jewish community to support United States intervention in the war and sway the large number of Jewish Bolsheviks who participated in the 1917 Bolshevik Revolution to keep Russia in the war. Fears were also voiced in the Foreign Office that if Britain did not come out in favor of a Jewish entity in Palestine the Germans would preempt them. Finally, both Lloyd George and Balfour were devout Christians who attached great religious significance to the proposed reinstatement of the Jews in their ancient homeland.
The negotiations for a Jewish entity were carried out by Chiam Weizmann, who greatly impressed Balfour and maintained important links with the British media. In support of the Zionist cause, his protracted and skillful negotiations with the Foreign Office were climaxed on November 2, 1917, by the letter from the foreign secretary to Lord Rothschild, which became known as the Balfour Declaration. This document declared the British government's "sympathy with Jewish Zionist aspirations," viewed with favor "the establishment in Palestine of a National Home for the Jewish People," and announced an intent to facilitate the achievement of this objective. The letter added the provision of "it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country."

[Steve 1]

Bent Damm going for the STUPID award?? the article I posted was Palestinians not Palestine LMAO BTW the point was there is no such thing as Palestinians!! You still do not get it do you??

[SmokinLowriderSS]

Egyptian writings refer to the region as R-h-n-u (for convenience pronounced Rechenu). Several names for the region are found in the Bible: Eretz Yisrael "Land of Israel", Eretz Ha-Ivrim "land of the Hebrews", "land flowing with milk and honey", "land that [God] swore to your fathers to assign to you", "Holy Land", and "land of the Lord". The portion of the land lying west of the Jordan was also called "land of Canaan" during the period in which it fell under the control of Egyptian vassals traditionally descended from Canaan the son of Ham. After the division of the Jewish kingdom into two the southern part was called "Judah" and the northern part was called "Israel".
The name "Palestine" comes from the Philistine people. The meaning of their name is uncertain but is sometimes understood in Hebrew to mean "invaders" from the root p-l-sh. The Philistines occupied the southern coast of the region disappearing as a distinct group by the Assyrian period. What is possibly the earliest mention of them occurs in Egyptian texts which record a people called the P-r/l-s-t (conventionally Peleset), one of the Sea Peoples who invaded Egypt in Ramesses III's reign. The Hebrew name פלשת (Pəléšeth or P(e)léshet, translated Philistia in English) is used in the Bible to denote the coastal region inhabited by the Philistines. The Assyrian emperor Sargon II called the region Palashtu in his Annals. The Greek form Palaistinêi from which English "Palestine" is ultimately derived, was first used in the 5th century BCE by Herodotus who wrote of the "district of Syria, called Palaistinêi". The boundaries of the area he referred to are not explicitly stated but Josephus used the name only for Philistia. Ptolemy also used the term. In Latin, Pliny wrote of a region of Syria that was "formerly called Palaestina" when describing the eastern coast of the Mediterranean.
In 135, following the fall of a Jewish revolt led by Bar Kokhba in 132–135, the Roman emperor Hadrian destroyed Jerusalem and expelled all the Jews from Israel, he also changed the name of the Roman province of Judea (Israel) to Syria Palaestina. In what was considered a form of psychological warfare, the Romans also tried to change the name of Jerusalem to Aelia Capitolina, but that had less staying power. During time the name Syria Palaestina was shortened to Palastina, Palaestina had then became an administrative political unit within the Roman Empire, In approximately 390, Palaestina was further organised into three units: Palaestina Prima, Secunda, and Tertia (First, Second, and Third Palestine). Palaestina Prima consisted of Judea, Samaria, the coast, and Peraea which the governor residing in Caesarea. Palaestina Secunda consisted of the Galilee, the lower Jezreel Valley, the regions east of Galilee, and the western part of the former Decapolis with the seat of government at Scythopolis. Palaestina Tertia included the Negev, southern Jordan — once part of Arabia — and most of Sinai with Petra the usual residence of the governor. Palestina Tertia was also known as Palaestina Salutaris. This reorganization reduced Arabia to the northern Jordan east of Peraea. Roman administration of Palestine ended temporarily during the Persian occupation of 614–28, then permanently after the Arabs conquered the region beginning in 635.
The above from Wikipedia, "palestine"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine
So, in the begining there was JUDAH and ISRAEL, with PHILISTINE "invaders" living along the coasts.
Then the Roman's conquored err, (to use blown's prefered lingo) "stole" both areas from the jews living there, and to add insult to injury, renamed the area "Syria Palaestina".
Thus, PRIOR TO THE ROMANS, there was Israel and Judea, AR (after rome) there was "palestine". So I guess the "palestineans" were NOT first. hmmmm
Of course, this disregards that NONE OF THESE "AREAS" was ever a self-govorning nation. "palestine" was a govorned part of the Holy Roman Empire that did not exist as an entity prior to Roman invasion. Try something else blown....

[Blown 472]

Egyptian writings refer to the region as R-h-n-u (for convenience pronounced Rechenu). Several names for the region are found in the Bible: Eretz Yisrael "Land of Israel", Eretz Ha-Ivrim "land of the Hebrews", "land flowing with milk and honey", "land that [God] swore to your fathers to assign to you", "Holy Land", and "land of the Lord". The portion of the land lying west of the Jordan was also called "land of Canaan" during the period in which it fell under the control of Egyptian vassals traditionally descended from Canaan the son of Ham. After the division of the Jewish kingdom into two the southern part was called "Judah" and the northern part was called "Israel".
The name "Palestine" comes from the Philistine people. The meaning of their name is uncertain but is sometimes understood in Hebrew to mean "invaders" from the root p-l-sh. The Philistines occupied the southern coast of the region disappearing as a distinct group by the Assyrian period. What is possibly the earliest mention of them occurs in Egyptian texts which record a people called the P-r/l-s-t (conventionally Peleset), one of the Sea Peoples who invaded Egypt in Ramesses III's reign. The Hebrew name פלשת (Pəléšeth or P(e)léshet, translated Philistia in English) is used in the Bible to denote the coastal region inhabited by the Philistines. The Assyrian emperor Sargon II called the region Palashtu in his Annals. The Greek form Palaistinêi from which English "Palestine" is ultimately derived, was first used in the 5th century BCE by Herodotus who wrote of the "district of Syria, called Palaistinêi". The boundaries of the area he referred to are not explicitly stated but Josephus used the name only for Philistia. Ptolemy also used the term. In Latin, Pliny wrote of a region of Syria that was "formerly called Palaestina" when describing the eastern coast of the Mediterranean.
In 135, following the fall of a Jewish revolt led by Bar Kokhba in 132–135, the Roman emperor Hadrian destroyed Jerusalem and expelled all the Jews from Israel, he also changed the name of the Roman province of Judea (Israel) to Syria Palaestina. In what was considered a form of psychological warfare, the Romans also tried to change the name of Jerusalem to Aelia Capitolina, but that had less staying power. During time the name Syria Palaestina was shortened to Palastina, Palaestina had then became an administrative political unit within the Roman Empire, In approximately 390, Palaestina was further organised into three units: Palaestina Prima, Secunda, and Tertia (First, Second, and Third Palestine). Palaestina Prima consisted of Judea, Samaria, the coast, and Peraea which the governor residing in Caesarea. Palaestina Secunda consisted of the Galilee, the lower Jezreel Valley, the regions east of Galilee, and the western part of the former Decapolis with the seat of government at Scythopolis. Palaestina Tertia included the Negev, southern Jordan — once part of Arabia — and most of Sinai with Petra the usual residence of the governor. Palestina Tertia was also known as Palaestina Salutaris. This reorganization reduced Arabia to the northern Jordan east of Peraea. Roman administration of Palestine ended temporarily during the Persian occupation of 614–28, then permanently after the Arabs conquered the region beginning in 635.
The above from Wikipedia, "palestine"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine
So, in the begining there was JUDAH and ISRAEL, with PHILISTINE "invaders" living along the coasts.
Then the Roman's conquored err, (to use blown's prefered lingo) "stole" both areas from the jews living there, and to add insult to injury, renamed the area "Syria Palaestina".
Thus, PRIOR TO THE ROMANS, there was Israel and Judea, AR (after rome) there was "palestine". So I guess the "palestineans" were NOT first. hmmmm
Of course, this disregards that NONE OF THESE "AREAS" was ever a self-govorning nation. "palestine" was a govorned part of the Holy Roman Empire that did not exist as an entity prior to Roman invasion. Try something else blown....
Why do the joos keep getting kicked out of countries??

[Steve 1]

You mean like the Nazis you should know that one since you hang out on their sites..
The Romans ??? Look what they did to England!

[SmokinLowriderSS]

Why do the joos keep getting kicked out of countries??
Well, if you put ANY thought into it, instead of just spewing filth (it's spelled with an "e" and a "w" blown, a "W" just like your hated president, you would SEE why.
Because, for centuries, untill 58 yrs ago, they depended on others to protect them. Now, since they have finally thrown out "plan"A", and decided to BE SELF-RESPONSIBLE and protect themselves (and they are sucessful (you must really hate success don't ya)), haters like you take shots at them. Pathetic blown, really pathetic.

[Seadog]

Until the the beginning of the last century, a lot of countries were simply part of empires. In fact, the nation concept was basically a european invention that was resisted by most of the remaining people in the world. The indians of the Americas, islanders of the Pacific, Africans and Arabs for just a few. They fought with other tribes for domination of hunting areas, grazing areas and the such, but did not establish boundaries with formal relations with neighbors until the europeans started requiring it. It is something inevitable because as populations grew, nomadic cultures could not survive as before.

[Blown 472]

Well, if you put ANY thought into it, instead of just spewing filth (it's spelled with an "e" and a "w" blown, a "W" just like your hated president, you would SEE why.
Because, for centuries, untill 58 yrs ago, they depended on others to protect them. Now, since they have finally thrown out "plan"A", and decided to BE SELF-RESPONSIBLE and protect themselves (and they are sucessful (you must really hate success don't ya)), haters like you take shots at them. Pathetic blown, really pathetic.
Take care of themselves? then why do we give them millions of our tax payer dollars every year??