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  1. #21
    Schiada76
    There actually has been impartial (yup impartial) studies done where the findings are................wait.......................here it is liberal nitwits..................the findings are...........................temperature change is directly tied to the sun, Yup the Sun! That big ol' nuclear reactor in the sky.
    No other studies ANYWHERE show a DIRECT corelation to climate change in the Earth's history.
    Barring other NATURAL action such as Volcanic activity or the accepted theory of an asteroid exterminating the dinosaurs.
    Liberals however are so brainwashed they think it's cars and cows.

  2. #22
    Old Texan
    The point is "the right" wanted to take your interest away from the environment and fossil fuels and keep it focused on a singular individual you can hate. Like sheep you knock each other over trying to get through that door.
    Please tell the class all about fossil fuels and the environment. Is Al portraying reality or is it more junk science?
    Convince me the media portrays a fair knowledge of coal fired power plants. The research and technology in this country gets pushed aside and ignored by the majority of the "greenies" and the dipshits they endorse for office and our media eats it up. Down with the establishment. I have been in probably 75% of the power plants in the southern US and the offices of the majority of the energy contractors in this country. These people are improving emissions and efficiency by the day and guys like Al Gore don't have a freakin' clue what is really going on.
    Ethanol and biofuel plants are booming. Supplemental alternatives. But all the media reports is we've got to get away from fossil fuels. Fossil fuels account for a helluva lot more than gas for the family automobiles on top of it all. Look around your house and think about how many things in your everyday life come from fossil fuels. Fossil fuels and products made from them and used by them drive our economy and our world.
    Why doesn't anyone look at the positive of what technology and industry are up to. This planet is a helluva lot cleaner today than it was 30 years ago and it's because our scientists and engineers do care and are striving to make this a better world to live in. Face the fact that internal combustion engines may never be completely replaced, at least not for a long time. They will however become more and more efficient and cleaner. It's technology.
    Al Gore = Mikey Moore, all fluff and BS, no content.

  3. #23
    Blown 472
    I reckon conservation is a good thing for us all.
    Being a shreiking, fearmongering hypocrite isn't, however.
    Thanks
    CA Stu
    You mean like bush/cheny??
    Use the terror alert to control the asses opps I mean masses.

  4. #24
    steelcomp
    Wouldn't a fair comparrison to Gore's energy useage be an itemized energy accounting of Bush's TX ranch or the White House. Big houses use more power. It amazes me how most here feel the need to find a way to make the opposing party look bad. There are useless Dems as there useless Reps. Seems like a waste of enegry to me. (no pun intended)
    Actually, Bush's ranch in Texas in only about 4000 sq feet, and three bedroom. No bigger a home than many here on HB. His cooling/heating system is, in simple terms, made of copper tubing that goes 300' underground where the temp is 68*, and it circulates colant throughout the house to maintain a constant temp. This was all done back in the 80's, long before there was any "global warming" hype being thrown around. Compare that with Gore, Clinton, Kerry, or any of the other hypocrates. Another comparison is Regan's western White House...barely more than an adobe hut in the coastal mauntains of Santa Barbara. The difference is, they walk the walk. Most libs, like PosterX here, are all just bla bla bla with the same nonsense, and nothing factual to back it up.

  5. #25
    steelcomp
    There actually has been impartial (yup impartial) studies done where the findings are................wait.......................here it is liberal nitwits..................the findings are...........................temperature change is directly tied to the sun, Yup the Sun! That big ol' nuclear reactor in the sky.
    No other studies ANYWHERE show a DIRECT corelation to climate change in the Earth's history.
    Barring other NATURAL action such as Volcanic activity or the accepted theory of an asteroid exterminating the dinosaurs.
    Liberals however are so brainwashed they think it's cars and cows.It's funny...human contribution (that's everything we humans are responsible for) to the total Co2 in the atmosphere is, at best, estimated to be about 4 (four) percent.
    Bad humans...bad humans...

  6. #26
    ULTRA26 # 1
    Steel, you are just to smart for me
    See ya

  7. #27
    Poster X
    Facts have been posted so many times and ignored I wouldn't post them if you lied and said you'd read them. We all know you'd just google the author and try to find some slander you can divert the subject with. I think it's fine that you believe war is better then peace. That you believe fossil fuels will last forever. And I am especially thrilled you have zero knowledge of the polar caps or any other fact ridden nuance of global warming or the greenhouse effect. It only supports what I already knew about you. But hey, it's worth bringing up about every 3 months for a laugh. If you ruin the earth no one will be around to blame you and if the Dem's fix it you'll just say you set the policy forward and they followed your lead. You can't lose. Enjoy that big 'ol head.

  8. #28
    Steve 1
    Gore's Oil
    by George Szamuely
    New York Press
    3/21/00
    In September of 1995, as part of the pompously named National Performance Review–Al Gore’s fatuous project to cut down government waste, fraud and mismanagement–the Vice President boldly declared that he was recommending the privatization of Elk Hills, a 47,000-acre oil-rich land in Southern California. Since 1912 it had been in the possession of the U.S. Navy as an emergency oil reserve. The oil companies salivated and made their bids. In October 1997 the Energy Dept. announced that the U.S. government would sell its stake in Elk Hills to Occidental Petroleum for $3.65 billion. Overnight, Occidental’s U.S. oil reserves tripled. Occidental’s stock surged and its stockholders glowed. One of them was the Vice President’s father, Al Gore Sr. He owned more than $500,000 worth of Occidental stock. A clear conflict of interest? Not to the airheads in the media. Neither then nor any time since have they evinced the slightest curiosity about this deal. Or indeed about the Gore family’s long and intimate connection with Occidental and, in particular, with its longtime chairman, the shady and sinister Armand Hammer.
    Hammer devoted his life to negotiating business deals with the former Soviet Union. Following the 1917 revolution Hammer set up a bank in New York to channel hard currency from Russian emigres into the hands of the Bolshevik government. He also received money from the Bolsheviks that he distributed to spies and underground agents here. In later years he ran a pencil factory in the Soviet Union, the only Western capitalist permitted to operate in Stalin’s Russia. In the 1930s, as the Soviet regime’s need for hard currency grew ever more desperate, he was assigned the task of selling off Russian art in the West and remitting the proceeds. A lot of this art had been stolen by the Bolsheviks from its "capitalist" owners. A lot of it was junk. And a lot of it was forged. In return for the money, the Soviets sent him oak staves from which he would build beer barrels.
    None of Hammer’s enterprises made much money He was continuously on the verge of bankruptcy until the 1960s, when by extraordinary persistence–and a lot of bribery–his company, Occidental Petroleum, won a lucrative oil concession in Libya. At last, he had serious money to play with.
    Hammer could not have prospered during the Red Scare, the Cold War and the McCarthy era had he not had powerful friends. It was no easy feat to persuade the world that he was no red–just a businessman trying to make a buck. One man who was very helpful to him in this regard was Sen. Albert Gore Sr. In 1950 Hammer had taken Congressman Gore on as a partner in his cattle-breeding business. He also sent him annual Christmas gifts of antique silver. And Gore repaid Hammer in kind. In the late 1950s he introduced him to Sen. John F. Kennedy. After the 1960 election Gore proposed to Kennedy that he use Hammer as his personal envoy in any future Berlin crises. While Hammer did not get the Berlin assignment, Kennedy did have an important mission for him. The President had been informed that Soviet crabmeat was produced by slave labor. Gore suggested that he send Hammer to investigate. Hammer returned to announce triumphantly that there was no truth to the rumor about slave labor. With great fanfare the U.S. government lifted the ban on Soviet crabmeat.
    Using the money pouring in from Libya Hammer bought the Island Creek Coal Co., the nation’s third largest coal producer. Following Gore’s 1970 electoral defeat, Hammer appointed him chairman of Island Creek as well as executive VP of Occidental. Gore’s took home a handsome $500,000 annually. By 1992 Gore owned Occidental stock worth $680,000. By now Hammer was, not surprisingly, cultivating the ambitious young Gore. In the 1960s, Gore Sr. informed Hammer that zinc ore had been discovered near his farm in Tennessee. Hammer bought the land for $160,000. He then promptly sold it back to him. Occidental then began payments of $20,000 a year for the right to mine it. Gore Sr. then sold the land to Gore Jr. for $140,000. According to the Center for Public Integrity, Gore Jr. has been receiving $20,000 a year from Occidental ever since. Interestingly, Occidental never did mine the land. In 1985, Gore leased the land to Occidental-competitor Union Zinc–clearly a sweetheart deal between Hammer and the Gore family.
    Today, Gore Jr. is executor of his father’s estate, which holds $500,000 worth of Occidental stock. In other words, the Vice President himself controls $500,000 worth of Occidental stock. Not surprisingly, Occidental has been extremely helpful to Clinton and Gore. Occidental gave $50,000 to the Clinton’s 1996 reelection campaign. Since 1992 Occidental has given more than $470,000 in soft money to the Democratic Party. According to the Center for Public Integrity, two days after Ray Irani, Armand Hammer’s successor as chairman, slept in the Lincoln Bedroom, Occidental forked over $100,000 to the DNC.
    Gore is famous for his tedious expostulations about the consequences for the Earth’s temperature of burning oil and coal. Yet when it comes to his own stock holdings the environment can take a running jump. In a few months Occidental is due to start drilling for oil in the Samore field in Colombia. Standing in Occidental’s way are the U’wa people, a remote Colombian Indian tribe inhabiting the country’s rainforests in the northeast, who do not want to leave their ancestral land. They promise to walk off a 1400-foot cliff in the Andes if Occidental begins drilling for oil. Predictably, Gore has said nothing. He has not protested Occidental’s mining decision, or threatened to dispose of his stock or rallied fellow stockholders on behalf of the U’wa.
    There is one thing the Clinton administration has done. It proposed recently to step up aid to the Colombian military to the tune of $1.3 billion. Ostensibly the money is to fight the "drug lords." In reality, it is to make sure that Al Gore’s oil wells and pipelines are firmly protected.

  9. #29
    Schiada76
    It's funny...human contribution (that's everything we humans are responsible for) to the total Co2 in the atmosphere is, at best, estimated to be about 4 (four) percent.
    Bad humans...bad humans...
    Then it's gotta be the cows right?
    RIGHT? IT's GOTTA BE SOMETHING WE'RE DOING!!!!!!!!!!!!! OH MY GAWD OH MY GAWD!!!! I'M GONNA GO HIDE UNDER MY BED AGAIN!!!
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    Whew! I kinda lost it there for a minute and went a little liberal.
    Sorry.

  10. #30
    SmokinLowriderSS
    He's a rich guy in a giant house. Proportionatly he uses no more than anyone else. This type of assault is the weakest in the right wing arsenal but works very well for people who don't look at the big picture and let others do their thinking for them.
    Al Gore has never preached that we should all live in the dark so he can see his mansion from a further distance. His message is that everyone can cut their percentage usage and save money and lessen our dependance on fossil fuels. You guys think because someone on the left doesn't mind paying taxes to support social programs we should give up everything we own and live in a ditch. People help in proportion to their income and in proportion to their usage. Big Al shouldn't have to live in a hut with no electricity just because he is a proponent for conservation of energy or global warming. If everyone cuts their dependence by equal percentages to our usage we can build a better future for our children. If we stand around and judge others because they can afford more proportion of usage compared to our own.. we'll be standing there doing nothing. As usual.
    Rich people have big houses and big bills. Your usage is just as abusive to someone living in a shack. The proportions will never be equal in a system of free enterprise. If you want everyone living to a standard you approve of then run for dictator.
    He has 3 mansions, not just 1. There is possibly a 4th, ownership being researched now.
    He's using electricity as fast as it can be generated, causing CO2 emmissions, yet telling US to cut our usage.
    He flies a BUNCH on private jets, HIS PVT JET, throwing CO2 into the atmosphere, yet telling US to get hybrids and use less fuel.
    The term is HYPOCRYTE poser. Former Vice Presidential HYPOCRYTE.

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