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Thread: Is abortion acceptable amoung Muslims?

  1. #11
    eliminatedsprinter
    early response
    Don't you mean pro death as opposed to pro choice. Why sugar coat it to make it feel better. I am pretty sure that people on the right that are pro life mean to protect a life that is having decisions made for it since it can't make a decision yet. War is a decision of people with responsibilty and so called logic.
    I would think that the pro life people would save a Muslim baby just the same.
    and then convert it
    Then the Muslims would have to kill it, because the penalty for leaving islam is death.

  2. #12
    bigq
    Then the Muslims would have to kill it, because the penalty for leaving islam is death.
    well...it will need to get in line then

  3. #13
    Old Texan
    the same Right that seems to advocate war, as an early response.
    The USA doesn't and hasn't advocated war nor have they started war. They have responded. I am not going into the reasons for the Iraq war as you have continuously overlooked (refused to look or admit) the years of dialogue and negotiating leading up to that point in 2003. This topic has been beat to death and it always comes full circle with same arguments about the state of the dictatorship in control, WMD's, UN sanctions, UN membership violations of those sanctions, and the open tyranny of the Husseins and the Jihadists. But the left stays with their contentions the Bush White House went to war on their own rather than with the vote and consent of Congress. That is false.
    This question that started the thread is completely irrelevant and doesn't address the issue of Islamic Fascism which is the real "issue" that keeps getting pushed aside by all the ridiculous banteing by both sides. It is the core of the problem we face today and it is why we are even at war. al Quaeda and their like groups want to bring the world to it's knees and will stop at nothing to accomplish their goal. If the Iraqi people could expel their invaders they would, look to the northern Kurdish region and it's quite evident what Iraq's citizens desire. The only abortion they debate is the retroactive kind towards all "Jihadists" that are terrorizing their land and the world.

  4. #14
    ULTRA26 # 1
    What
    I said pro death as opposed to pro "choice" not life....
    The term "Pro Life" is used to describe a political movement associated with the abortion laws that is all. Why are you mixing the two up?
    The subject of this thread pertains to abortion. (Pro Life) Don't think that I am mixing up anything.
    Do those who oppose abortion oppsose abortion by Muslims. I should have asked the question in these words.
    Do those who oppose abortion oppsose abortion by Muslims
    The USA doesn't and hasn't advocated war nor have they started war. They have responded. I am not going into the reasons for the Iraq war as you have continuously overlooked (refused to look or admit) the years of dialogue and negotiating leading up to that point in 2003. This topic has been beat to death and it always comes full circle with same arguments about the state of the dictatorship in control, WMD's, UN sanctions, UN membership violations of those sanctions, and the open tyranny of the Husseins and the Jihadists. But the left stays with their contentions the Bush White House went to war on their own rather than with the vote and consent of Congress. That is false.
    The USA doesn't and hasn't advocated war nor have they started war.
    They have responded. I am not going into the reasons for the Iraq war as you have continuously overlooked (refused to look or admit) the years of dialogue and negotiating leading up to that point in 2003
    The primary reason presented to the public for starting a war in Iraq, was WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION. This isn't a fact?
    The US lauched a full scale air attack on Iraq, killing thousands in response to what? Our attack was not a defensive one. To the contrary.
    Back to the subject of this thread
    Do those who oppose abortion oppsose abortion by Muslims?

  5. #15
    eliminatedsprinter
    Is this some kind of cheezy attempt to link pro life conservatives beliefs with those of islamists????

  6. #16
    eliminatedsprinter
    Should be a simple question
    It's not. Because Muslims also disagree among themselves on this. For approx 1400 years most clerics regognized some islamic "haddiths" (SP?) that said life didn't start until the 4th month and that abortion before the 4th month is permissable, however many clerics are no longer recogniziing this yadda yadda yaddaa.....

  7. #17
    ULTRA26 # 1
    It's not. Because Muslims also disagree among themselves on this. For approx 1400 years most clerics regognized some islamic "haddiths" (SP?) that said life didn't start until the 4th month and that abortion before the 4th month is permissable, however many clerics are no longer recogniziing this....
    Is this some kind of cheezy attempt to link pro life conservatives beliefs with those of islamists????
    Not in the slightest.
    Do those who oppose abortion oppsose abortion by Muslims?

  8. #18
    eliminatedsprinter
    Not in the slightest.
    Do those who oppose abortion oppsose abortion by Muslims?
    I can't speak for those who are opposed to all abortion, but
    I'm sure they do....Is this supposed to get to some point or do you really not know what "pro life" people mean when they say they oppose all abortion??
    P.S. There are many lefties that are "pro life". L.A.'s Cardinal Mahoney is very socialist in his politics, but he is staunchly anti abortion....

  9. #19
    ULTRA26 # 1
    I can't speak for those who are opposed to all abortion, but
    I'm sure they do....Is this supposed to get to some point or do you really not know what "pro life" people mean when they say they oppose all abortion??
    P.S. There are many lefties that are "pro life". L.A.'s Cardinal Mahoney is very socialist in his politics, but he is staunchly anti abortion....
    ES,
    Are you pro choice or pro life? If you are pro life, please answer my question.
    Thanks

  10. #20
    Old Texan
    The primary reason presented to the public for starting a war in Iraq, was WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION. This isn't a fact?
    As stated ealier you do not recognize the facts of how the Iraq invasion came about. WMD's were the major concern in accordance with the Hussein regime's refusal to honor UN sanctions. At the time the general consensus of the majority of the world believed they had WMD's, they had already used them against the Kurds, and there was definite proof they had intent to further their efforts to produce more and dealier weapons.
    In essense the war in Iraq was started by the Hussein regime when they invaded their neighbors and murdered their population. The only reason they had not futhered their efforts was the embargos and polic actions of US led UN faction.
    Here's an anology for you. What would happen in the town you live in if all police authority was removed? How long and how much time would pass when lawlessnes prevailed and the town attracted an outside criminal element beacuse they now had a sanctuary where there was no law to arrest them nor keep them from doing illegal activities. Rule by bullies. This growth of bad guys would eventually make your town unsafe for you and your family. Kind of like how it was in Iraq????

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