New melones is my chioce. There are a couple forks you can go up that are no Ski zones. Makes for a nice ride WFO, hardly any chop. We will be going first weekend in aug. Even on big weekends it seems like you don't run into very many people. If your going to camp, the best places are in Big Oak and Iron Horse. The sites have more flat areas. Tuttle town camp ground you stay on cliff's.