thanks alot for the info i really like the way b's sanger sits in the water and the look of the buble deck and halletts i also would like to have a blown motor (that would be a motor with a blower on it) this boat is intended to be for just goofing around and going fast and maybe race a guy or two. i have a brand new 25' mid cuddy open bow boat for the pleasure and carrying all the crap. etc..i like to get other peoples thoughts being that i researched until my head hurts and in the end just drive myself crazy, due to being anal retentive. thanks again for any input