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Thread: Exercising my 2nd amendment over the weekend.

  1. #171
    ULTRA26 # 1
    Ultra,
    When did you and I become right wingers?
    I didn't think that we had

  2. #172
    delemorte
    I didn't think that we had
    Well after listening to this nutjob i feel ultra right. I feel violated.

  3. #173
    eliminatedsprinter
    Well after listening to this nutjob i feel ultra right. I feel violated.
    When one learns the historic meaning of the term "Left Wing" on quickly learns that most Americians are right wingers. Homeless and Poster X are the only true Left Wingers that I have seen on this Board. :idea:

  4. #174
    delemorte
    When one learns the historic meaning of the term "Left Wing" on quickly learns that most Americians are right wingers. Homeless and are the only true Left Wingers that I have seen on this Board. :idea:
    then im sorry sir you guys are both crazy!!! :
    As long as you dont step on my personal freedoms you can be left or right... it dont matter to me.

  5. #175
    eliminatedsprinter
    then im sorry sir you guys are both crazy!!! :
    As long as you dont step on my personal freedoms you can be left or right... it dont matter to me.
    Back in the late 1800s in the French Parliement the Communists and the Socialists got in so many physical altercations with everybody else, they had to be seperated to the left side of the isle (the left wing) of the hall. Thus the term "Left Wing" or "Left Winger" was applied to those who favored socialist/communist ideologies. The term "Right Winger" simply refers to those who oppose socialism or communism. The more strongly one opposes communism/socialism the farther right one is. I personally feel that communism and socialism are 2 of the most authoritarian forms of government ever devised, thus I am a Right Winger. If that makes me nuts, so be it.

  6. #176
    delemorte
    Back in the late 1800s in the French Parliement the Communists and the Socialists got in so many physical altercations with everybody else, they had to be seperated to the left side of the isle (the left wing) of the hall. Thus the term "Left Wing" or "Left Winger" was applied to those who favored socialist/communist ideologies. The term "Right Winger" simply refers to those who oppose socialism or communism. The more strongly one opposes communism/socialism the farther right one is. I personally feel that communism and socialism are 2 of the most authoritarian forms of government ever devised, thus I am a Right Winger. If that makes me nuts, so be it.
    To be honest true communism is the ideal in my book. but greed and envy fook that up. But im down with the communist (by its truest definition)
    "Communism is an ideology that promotes establishment of a classless, stateless social organization based on common ownership of the means of production. It is usually considered a branch of the broader socialist movement that draws on the various political and intellectual movements that trace their origins back to the work of Karl Marx."
    everyone works, everyone contributes. those that dont work or dont contribute are left on the side. Think Star Trek. thats an ideological communist comunity. No currency and everyone contributes for the greater good.
    Ideal but not practical in my book...

  7. #177
    delemorte
    then im sorry sir you guys are both crazy!!! :
    As long as you dont step on my personal freedoms you can be left or right... it dont matter to me.
    I missread that and thereby misstyoped this... i meant to say...
    then bothTHOSE guys are crazy then.

  8. #178
    Schiada76
    To be honest true communism is the ideal in my book. but greed and envy fook that up. But im down with the communist (by its truest definition)
    "Communism is an ideology that promotes establishment of a classless, stateless social organization based on common ownership of the means of production. It is usually considered a branch of the broader socialist movement that draws on the various political and intellectual movements that trace their origins back to the work of Karl Marx."
    everyone works, everyone contributes. those that dont work or dont contribute are left on the side. Think Star Trek. thats an ideological communist comunity. No currency and everyone contributes for the greater good.
    Ideal but not practical in my book...
    This is great!
    Communism! 100 million dead in 80 years!
    Lets give it another try!!!

  9. #179
    eliminatedsprinter
    To be honest true communism is the ideal in my book. but greed and envy fook that up. But im down with the communist (by its truest definition)
    "Communism is an ideology that promotes establishment of a classless, stateless social organization based on common ownership of the means of production. It is usually considered a branch of the broader socialist movement that draws on the various political and intellectual movements that trace their origins back to the work of Karl Marx."
    everyone works, everyone contributes. those that dont work or dont contribute are left on the side. Think Star Trek. thats an ideological communist comunity. No currency and everyone contributes for the greater good.
    Ideal but not practical in my book...
    Actually what you are describing (esp if you think Star Trek) is not Communism, but Utopian Socialism and it is from Robert Owen and Charles Fourier, not Karl Marx. It is actually older than the work of Karl Marx. Utopian Socialism (and the Socialist Movement) is much older than Karl Marx and Karl Marx actually found this ideology too extreme for his tastes...

  10. #180
    delemorte
    Actually what you are describing (esp if you think Star Trek) is not Communism, but Utopian Socialism and it is from Robert Owen and Charles Fourier, not Karl Marx. It is actually older than the work of Karl Marx. Utopian Socialism (and the Socialist Movement) is much older than Karl Marx and Karl Marx actually found this ideology too extreme for his tastes...
    I meant that everybody works, everyone contributes (not nessecarily like some sci fi show). no class structure. but yes i totally agree it does not work and has costed untold lives and economies. Man is the mistake there and his greed/corruption and on the other end lasiness and wanting shit handed to you instead of working hard are the downfall of that idea.
    Wouldnt it be nice if every one in the country worked to their fullest potential? I see everyone bitch about people being slack assesyet you disagree with everyone pitching in.

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