Goodbye ***boat

[Outlaw]

Lurked here for years, posted for a couple.
Bought a couple boats, met a few good peeps.
Sad to see what the new Managment did to it.

[INFINITEJJ]

Hey, at least you got a damm nice dog out of it I hope
Great dog and great friends. We are not dead, just on a couple other sites.

[sunkisst]

This was the first website that I ever frequented.I learned a lot about the computer alone just by visiting HB.Met a lot of folks here too.I may even add,Brett Bayne photographed my boat,and did a 4 page peice on it back a few years ago.Hate to see it end this way...RIP Hot Boat.

[gigamurph]

I don't post a whole lot on here anymore, but back in the day.....Saw many a sunrise talkin' w/ the likes of FuFu Queen, Hustler, Chestah Cheetah, RiverToys, Disco, RiverCutie, the boatnams, RiverDave, the HBJets, and many, many more. I for one, refuse to let go until all hope is lost. That and I go to log on and get nothin'! It's been fun to say the least!

[wolf]

Come on guys, dont lose hope yet. If we all leave HB, then there will be NO MORE HB. Ya I've heard that alot of people arent getting their issues and are not satisfied with its content, which does suck, but with enough complaint letters or e-mails to the editor in chief, I think we CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
If HB is going belly up, then mabey the EIC can ask for a bailout like LARRY FLYNT.
NOTE: TO THE "EDITOR IN CHIEF" I cancelled my subcription because there was too many ads and I dont GIVE A SHIT on how your damm test drive went. YOU NEED TO CATER TO THE ONES THAT SUPPORT YOU OTHERWISE YOU WILL HAVE NO MORE SUPPORT! IN THE END YOU WILL LOSE!!!
RIVER RAT FOREVER!!! FLATBOTTOMS RULE!!! NOTHIN FASTER THAN A FLAT!!!
Being new you can't know, but this had been done well over a year ago. A lot of their readers were banned and the site shut down for a few months. Because of that, and a new website sprung up. Most went over there. Once back up, website managers took exception to the members of the new website and banned most of them.
The magazine changed hands and the new owners "reorganized" the magazine dismissing some of those who made the magazine what it was. The management had HB dismissed what the readership wanted and thus a new magazine and website appeared.
Most went to the new magazine that had some of the old HB people. This new magazine is thriving (hopefully) and their website rolls over many pages each day.
HB's management misjudged what their true readership wanted and dismissed their advice.
Of course this is my opinion and view of what happened. I'm sure that HB management has a different view and would love to hear it.

[cave]

Being new you can't know, but this had been done well over a year ago. A lot of their readers were banned and the site shut down for a few months. Because of that, and a new website sprung up. Most went over there. Once back up, website managers took exception to the members of the new website and banned most of them.
The magazine changed hands and the new owners "reorganized" the magazine dismissing some of those who made the magazine what it was. The management had HB dismissed what the readership wanted and thus a new magazine and website appeared.
Most went to the new magazine that had some of the old HB people. This new magazine is thriving (hopefully) and their website rolls over many pages each day.
HB's management misjudged what their true readership wanted and dismissed their advice.
Of course this is my opinion and view of what happened. I'm sure that HB management has a different view and would love to hear it.
Well said.
We made HB what it was. Not the other way around. Now there's 2 other sites that are lucky to have us and hopefully doing well. I don't know what the managment was thinking when they kicked us all to the curb. I guess they didn't know many of us were like a Internet extended family. I peeked in here from time to time. Just wasn't the same. Kinda like coming back to the house you worked you Arse off have and its now the Ex's and her new hubbies.
All the best Hot Boat.

[nautibouy70]

Well said.
We made HB what it was. Not the other way around. Now there's 2 other sites that are lucky to have us and hopefully doing well. I don't know what the managment was thinking when they kicked us all to the curb. I guess they didn't know many of us were like a Internet extended family. I peeked in here from time to time. Just wasn't the same. Kinda like coming back to the house you worked you Arse off have and its now the Ex's and her new hubbies.
All the best Hot Boat.
Thanks wolf, cave, but actually I've been here longer than you think. I've just been sitting here quietly on the side lines until now. I had a HB subscription for many years until now!. I've been running the Parker strip and LHC for 30+ years I actually saw The London bridge being built and was one of the first ones to drive my boat under it way before Havasu was what it is now.I remember HB from back in the good ol' days, Nothin but bad ass boats before the days of the off-shore racer. Not saying anything bad, But Im sure you guys did make a substantial contribution. I'm just a little upset to see a major institution like this go down the shitter because of some corporate executive assholes. When my football team starts loosing I dont go over to the other side, I stay loyal and try to fire the coach. So far the HB website is still up and running. Which means some ones paying the electrical bill so there not broke yet. I'm sure your account will be credited. As far a a lot of people being banned. well lets just say I've seen your pics and read your posts. I'm sure some diserved it while others did not. I've been reading this magazine since I was a kid and I hate to see it go! Never give up and dont give up without a fight! ONLY PUSSIES RUN AWAY!
RIVER RAT FOREVER!

[wolf]

Thanks wolf, cave, but actually I've been here longer than you think. I've just been sitting here quietly on the side lines until now. I had a HB subscription for many years until now!. I've been running the Parker strip and LHC for 30+ years I actually saw The London bridge being built and was one of the first ones to drive my boat under it way before Havasu was what it is now.I remember HB from back in the good ol' days, Nothin but bad ass boats before the days of the off-shore racer. Not saying anything bad, But Im sure you guys did make a substantial contribution. I'm just a little upset to see a major institution like this go down the shitter because of some corporate executive assholes. When my football team starts loosing I dont go over to the other side, I stay loyal and try to fire the coach. So far the HB website is still up and running. Which means some ones paying the electrical bill so there not broke yet. I'm sure your account will be credited. As far a a lot of people being banned. well lets just say I've seen your pics and read your posts. I'm sure some diserved it while others did not. I've been reading this magazine since I was a kid and I hate to see it go! Never give up and dont give up without a fight! ONLY PUSSIES RUN AWAY!
RIVER RAT FOREVER!
Don't think that we ran. We where pushed away. This is a business, not a football team. If they tell me they don't want my service because of the type of service I want, I'll find it elsewhere. That's business. Not running away. If they want my money, they need to accommodate me, not the other way around.
Now I've sent e-mails (starting the day the new management took over) and letter's about what I wanted in a boating magazine. My correspondence was never acknowledged, nor were any questions answered until they told me that they were in charge and were going to run the magazine their way and slammed a few people in the process. This wasn't done in correspondence but in one of their editorials.
Now I've been boating for almost 50 years, so I too know a little about the subject. I too would love to see this institution stay, but I'm not going to give money to someone that completely disregards my view, much like I wouldn't buy a Chevette just to keep GM in business. That's just plain stupid.
You've eluded to the fact that you do not now have a subscription to the magazine. Is that loyalty or are you just talking about the website?
As far as seeing my posts or pictures that I've posted, I doubt that you have as I've only been posting under this name since I was banned with another name (not even close to this one).
As far as my loyalty to a team, mine moved (the players and the coaches) and changed their name and I've followed them. That's where my loyalty is. You can call me a pussy but at least I'm getting what I paid for.

[nautibouy70]

Don't think that we ran. We where pushed away. This is a business, not a football team. If they tell me they don't want my service because of the type of service I want, I'll find it elsewhere. That's business. Not running away. If they want my money, they need to accommodate me, not the other way around.
Now I've sent e-mails (starting the day the new management took over) and letter's about what I wanted in a boating magazine. My correspondence was never acknowledged, nor were any questions answered until they told me that they were in charge and were going to run the magazine their way and slammed a few people in the process. This wasn't done in correspondence but in one of their editorials.
Now I've been boating for almost 50 years, so I too know a little about the subject. I too would love to see this institution stay, but I'm not going to give money to someone that completely disregards my view, much like I wouldn't buy a Chevette just to keep GM in business. That's just plain stupid.
You've eluded to the fact that you do not now have a subscription to the magazine. Is that loyalty or are you just talking about the website?
As far as seeing my posts or pictures that I've posted, I doubt that you have as I've only been posting under this name since I was banned with another name (not even close to this one).
As far as my loyalty to a team, mine moved (the players and the coaches) and changed their name and I've followed them. That's where my loyalty is. You can call me a pussy but at least I'm getting what I paid for.
Sorry wolf, I was'nt calling you or anyone else a pussy, just makin a statment. Ya I'm just as upset over this as you are thats why I HAD a subscription up untill Dec 08. I havent seen anything for Jan 09 yet. I read the editorials and didnt like it either. I could not agree with you more on your views. The fact that your still here means your loyal. I guess we're all pissed.
I'm not giving up yet I've flooded them with e-mails too. I just hate to take the HB sticker off my truck.lol Hopefully it will get better. Peace!

[cave]

nautibouy70, I wanted to stay but were shown the door. I didn't switch teams. The team is over there. This team didn't want my contributions. Believe me when I say I understand your feelings on this.
Too bad you didn't contribute more back when HB was still young. I bet you could have enlighten many to the history you have experienced. I wish you luck here. I do understand how much HB meant to so many. It meant a lot to me too. But I've moved onto the other sites. These sites are where we all met up after the shut down and asked, WHAT THE *UCK Happened. Thanks to those who stepped up and filled that void.
The internet was so young back then. We were all learning about this new media. HB was a big deal to me back then. The new management gambled and lost my trust. If some other group could save HB that would be great. for me the charm is gone. It was never the mag for me after I was told "if you want to see more hot rod lake boats go to the HB forums". The mag died back in the early 90's for me.